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The Christian Nazi myth refuted. A review of: The Swastika against the Cross...by Bruce Walker
Journal of Creation ^ | April 2010 | Lita Cosner

Posted on 08/12/2011 9:18:54 AM PDT by fishtank

The Christian Nazi myth refuted

A review of: The Swastika against the Cross: The Nazi War on Christianity by Bruce Walker

Outskirts Press, Parker, CO, 2009

by Lita Cosner

Many anti-Christians turn to the Nazis for an example of the sort of evil that can be committed in the name of Christ. The myth that the Nazis were Christian is so common that many Christians cannot adequately answer it. If the Nazis had been Christian in name, all this would have proved is that not all who claim to act in Christ’s name are consistent with His teachings. But far from being Christians, the Nazis were opposed to Christianity and sought to stamp it out.

In less than 100 pages, Bruce Walker, in The Swastika Against the Cross, sets out to document the Nazi’s opposition to Christianity using sources that were mainly written before and during the Second World War. As Walker points out, “The authors of these books had no idea how history would unfold; they did not know that the world would be plunged into a global war or that six million Jews would be exterminated in horrific fashion” (Introduction).

(More at link.)


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: germany; hitler; nazi; sweden
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Related to recent Sweden massacre.

The Journal of Creation just bumped this back to the top of their website.

1 posted on 08/12/2011 9:18:59 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: WXRGina; dynachrome

Ping regarding Michael Savage’s comments about the Swedish killer.

PS, I like Savage, and I started the Savage daily thread, but for now, I don’t him to have the most ‘accurate’ views on issues that involve spiritual issues.


2 posted on 08/12/2011 9:21:06 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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The myth that the Nazis were Christian is

just that, a myth.

3 posted on 08/12/2011 9:26:07 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: fishtank

“PS, I like Savage, and I started the Savage daily thread, but for now, I don’t _expect_ him to have the most ‘accurate’ views on issues that involve spiritual issues.”


4 posted on 08/12/2011 9:28:42 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank
Heinrich Himmler's Remarkable Admiration For Islam: "It Promises Beautiful Women In Heaven"
5 posted on 08/12/2011 9:28:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Lots of connections to Islam. Also for further study; I just finished the new biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. There was part of the German church that supported Hitler. Great confusion about what is truly Christian and that makes it more difficult to argue with the leftists. Also just watched The Soviet Story that equates the Soviet Communists with the Nazis in ideology and tactics.


6 posted on 08/12/2011 9:46:41 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: fishtank

I’m with you, Fishtank. I love Savage to pieces, and his political analysis is spot-on. His theological analysis misses the mark.


7 posted on 08/12/2011 9:57:44 AM PDT by WXRGina
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To: pyx
just that, a myth.

So many Christians went to concentration camps because of their opposition to the Reich!. < /sarcasm>

8 posted on 08/12/2011 10:14:44 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: vanilla swirl
..there was part of the German church that supported Hitler

...and then there were real Christians like Bonhoeffer whose conscience wouldn't let him stay safely in America

.. but return to Germany where he was arrested and killed for speaking out against the regime of Hitler...

.. or Corrie ten Boom and family and countless others who risked their lives to defend & aid and hide Jewish families.

The real Christians.

9 posted on 08/12/2011 10:15:55 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: GingisK

The Nazis were intent on eventually exterminating all Christian Poles. Auschwitz was originally built to house and exterminate Polish political prisoners.


10 posted on 08/12/2011 10:18:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GingisK
You post this as sarcasm........but it was actually the truth....

..so many Christians did go to concentration camps because of their opposition to the Reich.....

..so many pastors were killed for preaching the Gospel in Germany.....

...if you haven't read The Hiding Place...you should.

11 posted on 08/12/2011 10:18:37 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: GingisK
You post this as sarcasm........but it was actually the truth....

..so many Christians did go to concentration camps because of their opposition to the Reich.....

..so many pastors were killed for preaching the Gospel in Germany.....

...if you haven't read The Hiding Place...you should.

12 posted on 08/12/2011 10:18:49 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: fishtank
Anyone who links Christianity to the Nazis knows nothing of either thing.

I've read Mein Kampf (God was it a painful read, too), Trevor-Roper's Hitler's Table Talk and Toland and Fest's biographies of Hitler. From these and many other sources it is clear that Hitler despised Christianity almost as much as Judaism and tolerated it ONLY because it was the traditional religion of the German masses. For that reason he sometimes used religious language in his speeches, especially when he appeared before very conservative audiences or when he was speaking in Catholic Bavaria outside of Munich. Hitler was himself agnostic to the point of simply not caring, having utterly rejected Catholicism in his youth. Per Trevor-Roper, his eventual goal was to destroy the church and replace it with an entirely synthetic cult focused on Blood, Soil, the State and the Leader. Such a controversial change had to wait for the present generation of Germans to die out, but in this goal Hitler was pragmatic and patient. But you can see the shape of what was to come in the madcap quasi-pagan rituals of the SS leaders.

13 posted on 08/12/2011 10:19:22 AM PDT by jboot
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To: fishtank
It's indisputable that the leadership of the Nazi movement was not Christian.

But although some German Christians took a stand against Naziism (Bishop Graf von Galen, and the Jehovah's Witnesses are notable examples), the vast majority appear to have found a way to reconcile Jesus with the Fuhrer.

14 posted on 08/12/2011 10:21:57 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“...the vast majority appear to have found a way to reconcile Jesus with the Fuhrer.”

Hmmm.

Sounds MUCH too familiar ..........


15 posted on 08/12/2011 10:36:31 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Hitler was nothing but a pagen. His whole regime was deep into the occult. People always say the nazis were christian. It is a lie.


16 posted on 08/12/2011 10:40:10 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: Notary Sojac
...the vast majority appear to have found a way to reconcile Jesus with the Fuhrer...

Hitler was not initially recognized as a monster, but merely the latest in a long line of political strongmen going back at least to Bismarck. He even seemed to many to be a breath of fresh air as he swept away the chaos, alienation and social disintegration of the Weimar era. If Christians have a failing it is that we are quick to mistake domestic tranquillity and order for goodness. Alas, Hitler was not in the remotest sense good, but by the time most German Christians knew it, it was death to speak out. Those that dared dissapeared and the rest silently went about their business in fear and resignation. From my comfy chair seventy years hence I am unwilling to judge them. I like to imagine I would have had the courage to stand against the tyrant, but who knows?

17 posted on 08/12/2011 11:04:13 AM PDT by jboot
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To: Guenevere

The left has no idea what “real Christian” means.


18 posted on 08/12/2011 11:43:09 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: GingisK

More than 2,300 Catholic clergy including six bishops were murdered in the prisons and camps of German-occupied Poland.


19 posted on 08/12/2011 12:02:56 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: jboot

Germany was a Catholic country, so obviously there were “Christian” Nazis. But it had NOTHING to do with Christianity. It’s the same as blaming Timothy McVeigh being a “Christian” as a reason behind his bombing. McVeigh may have been raised in a traditional Christian home, but he was a committed atheist. Unlike the Nazis who DID have that pagan statist “religion” based on the “worship” of a charismatic leader. Like Castro, Chavez, Mao, and Stalin.


20 posted on 08/12/2011 1:08:21 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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