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More smokers avoiding taxes with self-rolled cigarettes and small cigars
kentucky.com ^
| Aug 12, 2011
| Beth Musgrave
Posted on 08/12/2011 7:27:34 AM PDT by KyGeezer
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The morons never learn...raise taxes and lose revenue.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:27:38 AM PDT
by
KyGeezer
To: KyGeezer
In college my buddies and I rolled our own: Borkum Riff in a Zig Zag.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:30:45 AM PDT
by
Genoa
(Starve the beast.)
To: KyGeezer
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:31:24 AM PDT
by
y6162
To: KyGeezer
The move to small cigars and roll-your-own cigarettes is a national trend. The U.S. Department of Justice estimates that states have lost $5 billion a year because people are using alternatives that have no state retail cigarette tax. What's the difference between a small cigar and a cigarette? "Cigarette" literally means "small cigar".
To: KyGeezer
It seems once one is employed in public service, the notion of unintended consequences becomes unfathomable.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:32:04 AM PDT
by
FourPeas
("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
To: KyGeezer
RE :"
State officials say more and more people are turning to cheaper alternatives little cigars and roll-your-own cigarettes that aren't covered by the state's 60-cent-a-pack tax. "
I gave up smoking decades ago but 'roll your own' to avoid the taxes is a great idea (no filters I assume.) It's so 1920s/Temporance/bootleg like.
And states like Maryland that patrol the borders looking for residents bringing cigarettes in probably are not looking for plain tabacco.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:33:43 AM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
To: KyGeezer
My wife and I switched to the little cigars two years ago. They actually taste better than regular cigarettes, and cost two thirds less.
Funny how the state’s revenue from cigarette taxes dropped when they raised the rate, huh? Libs never learn.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:34:02 AM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: KyGeezer
It was now a few years ago that they jacked up the taxes on canned tobacco, which hurt a lot of very poor people.
That “it is for their own good” is a b.s. argument, when taking away the few, small pleasures they have.
I would suggest that anyone who uses this line of argument should be prohibited from eating food in restaurants, because it is less healthy, as a rule, than food prepared at home. And “it is for their own good”, to deprive them of something *they* find pleasing.
To: KyGeezer
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:34:52 AM PDT
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: Paleo Conservative
What's the difference between a small cigar and a cigarette? Not much. They're supposedly made from cigar tobacco and rolled in brown paper instead of white. My wife and I smoke them, and besides tasting a whole lot better than 'cigarettes', they only cost us $1.70 a pack.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:36:16 AM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: Paleo Conservative
What's the difference between a small cigar and a cigarette? "Cigarette" literally means "small cigar". Filters? Taxes?
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:36:19 AM PDT
by
rhombus
To: KyGeezer
Back in 2009 they jacked up the federal tax on loose tobacco from $1/pound to over $24/pound to keep people from stealing money from the government (cough, cough) by rolling their own.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:38:43 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
To: rhombus
$1.70 a pack in Texas.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:40:46 AM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: KarlInOhio
Watch next week for the proposal to tax cigars at gigarette rates.
The government doesn’t care about your health.
They just want your money.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:43:37 AM PDT
by
hoosierham
(Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
To: KyGeezer
Kentuckians continue to smoke and they are rolling their own — but it sure ain’t tobacco!
To: hoosierham
at gigarette rates.I'm not sure how much that it, but it sounds like a bunch!!!
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:51:47 AM PDT
by
Onelifetogive
(I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
To: sickoflibs
"I gave up smoking decades ago but 'roll your own' to avoid the taxes is a great idea (no filters I assume.)" Filters if you want 'em. Some of today's home rolling machines are pretty sophisticated...
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: KyGeezer
U.S. Department of Justice estimates that states have lost $5 billion a year Anybody else notice the stoopid attitude in this statement?
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:52:22 AM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: KarlInOhio
Old Mr. Anderson our neighbor used to grow his own tobacco. Dried it in the garage.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:52:24 AM PDT
by
wordsofearnest
(Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
To: Windflier
{What’s the difference between a small cigar and a cigarette?}
Not much. They’re supposedly made from cigar tobacco and rolled in brown paper instead of white. My wife and I smoke them, and besides tasting a whole lot better than ‘cigarettes’, they only cost us $1.70 a pack.
Years ago (decades really) I read that cigarettes were invented to make use of the trimmings left over from the cigar-making process. The inventor never expected the waste-based product to take off.
I wish I could cite a source for you, but I would have read it on paper so source could have been anything from book to newspaper.
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:54:20 AM PDT
by
Peet
(Cogito ergo dubito.)
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