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To: RowdyFFC

Your statement is pretty plainly nonsense which is why you cannot elaborate upon it, just as I expected would be the case.

The RAT Rebellion of 1861 was entirely political. It wasn’t because of tariffs or any other economic factor. The Slavers fear of Lincoln drove the rebellion. They knew their archaic economic system was doomed (being totally antithetical to everything the USA stood for) and tried to hold back the clock. Having held almost complete control of the government since its founding they knew the jig was up.


132 posted on 08/11/2011 10:04:21 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

Well, if you want to believe the revisionist history of the leftie loonies, go right ahead.

But the fact is, what started the secessionist movement began in the depression of 1837 when the manufacturers and their organized labor were going bankrupt because their products cost too much. Much like what has happened here today. As the manufacturers were going bankrupt the agricultural south was still getting rich. Not only that, but the south quit buying the north’s goods because with their southern ports they could import what they wanted cheaper. Much like what’s happening today with companies moving to the right to work states in the south.

Did you notice that Wisconsin just woke up from it? And the union thugs are screeching like banshees? Even Michigan is starting to wake up.

Actually the south was full of republicans and democrats that united under one party to throw off the economic tyranny of the north. I think you’ve seen a similar rebellion in the Taxed Enough Already Party that organized itself today made up of conservative democrats, republicans and independents.

You see, it’s not about parties, it’s about tyrannical governments. Buchanan hadn’t a freaking clue what he was doing and insted lunched, wined and dined all of the elitest in DC, much like what is happening today.

And when Lincoln got the White House the south had seceded, his government coffers were depleted because he was getting NO TARRIFF’s off the southern ports. Instead of using diplomacy he listened to the wrong people and decided he could claim the southern Forts as belonging to the North. And the rest is history. He pulled his krap at Ft. Sumpter and the shooting started.

But get this...three years into the war when BOTH sides were tired of fighting it...instead of negotiating through diplomacy. He made the serious mistake of putting his grand Emancipation Proclamation together thinking he could just automatically free the slaves in the south which would boost up recruitment for his war effort when nobody was wanting to sign up for it anymore. It was a nice spin on the grand cause to free the slaves. But again, he made another mistake. He EXEMPTED all the five slave-holding states in the north, including Massachusetts whose whole economy was based on shipping slaves.

You talk about a bunch of pixxed off people in the south. They came back and beat Lincoln’s generals arse all the way back to Gettysburg and if it hadn’t been for the one mistake of placement of the south’s ammo dump, you would be living in the Confederated United States of America because the next march would’ve been on Washington DC. It would’ve been razed to the ground and most likely instead of Atlanta burning, it would’ve been your new capitol.

As far as the south archaic economical system, you are simply lying. As you know, the five slave-holding states in the north were exempted from emancipation. Not to mention that the south was already educating their slaves, the many giving them their own right to raise vegetables and sell them so they’d know how to manage money. They had allowed the slaves to set up their own court systems and schools.

Tyrannical government is what divided the states in 1800’s. Just like it’s dividing it today.


134 posted on 08/11/2011 1:07:28 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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