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Grand Jury Calls for Investigating Homeschoolers (Response...)
Homeschool Legal Defense Associaton ^ | 8/2/11

Posted on 08/09/2011 6:02:08 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

On July 25, 2011, the Miami-Dade grand jury released several sweeping recommendations in a detailed report on the Nubia Barahona case. The murder of 10-year-old Nubia, apparently at the hands of her adoptive parents earlier this year in Florida, was a heinous crime for which the perpetrators should be severely punished...

While it is right to conduct a thorough review in the aftermath of tragic events in an effort to prevent similar tragedies, it is also important not to overreact. Unfortunately, the grand jury report overreacts in its recommendations to amend Florida’s homeschool laws because of Nubia’s adoptive parents’ claim that they were homeschooling her for the seven months leading up to her death.

The grand jury recommends that the law be amended to require every notice of intent for a home education program to “be forwarded to DCF to determine if any reports have been made to the DCF Hotline.” The grand jury went on to recommend that if parents had ever been the subject of a Department of Children and Families (DCF) investigation, they were to be immediately subject to a new investigation by DCF and required to submit to a period of monitoring, even if the previous investigation completely cleared them.

These overreaching recommendations are of great concern to Home School Legal Defense Association, the local homeschool community in Florida, and the wider homeschool movement around the country. The recommendations are stunning because they assume that the lawful decision of parents to teach their children at home must be examined by DCF every single time. Even more concerning, is the grand jury’s declaration that if parents had been falsely reported up to seven years ago and completely exonerated, they would be subject to an investigation and undetermined period of monitoring by DCF.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: chicago; columbine; frhf; homeschooling; publicschool; school
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41 posted on 08/10/2011 10:03:54 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

l would really like to see a statistical comparison of violent crimes committed in home school versus public school settings.

This is as legitimate as TSA screening or DHS profiling of indeed any other government excess in this social welfare police state.


42 posted on 08/11/2011 6:14:19 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: metmom
And what about the public school kids who die at the hands of their public school parents are molested by their perverted public school teachers?

I think that any time a grand jury makes a recommendation which will have the tendency to expose more children to hazards like THAT, we need to reexamine the grand jury system and the members of this particular GJ. It's for the cheeeeeelrun!

43 posted on 08/11/2011 8:20:56 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: caww; Tax-chick; upchuck
Principle found dead (in pool of blood) at school.

The times we live in ARE tough on principles. What did the principal say about this?

44 posted on 08/11/2011 8:30:13 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking; Jaded; Ryan Spock; upchuck; TheMom; TChris; Xenalyte; Semper Vigilantis; ...
Principle found dead (in pool of blood) at school.

If it were a modern-art-statement sort of thing, it would be rather clever. Or if it were a participle, dead in a pool of blood ... although dangling from the ceiling would be more apropos, for a participle ...

45 posted on 08/11/2011 8:39:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you know why I love reptiles? It's because they don't play guitars.)
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To: Tax-chick

LOL!


46 posted on 08/11/2011 8:53:11 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I’m not surprised by this. Heck the voters gave pigs constitutional rights, so what would prevent ANY other over reach?


47 posted on 08/11/2011 9:08:37 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Tax-chick

How about a split infinitive?

One of the worst things up with which we have to put ... ;oP


48 posted on 08/11/2011 9:43:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Non plaudite. Modo pecuniam jacite." - - Don't applaud. ....Just throw money)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Split infinitives are like split ends: no matter what the ads say, nothing repairs them. All you can do is cut them off.

In many languages, the infinitive form is a single word, so asplit it is unable to be.


49 posted on 08/11/2011 9:49:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you know why I love reptiles? It's because they don't play guitars.)
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To: Tax-chick

That just goes to show, you should never go swimming alone.


50 posted on 08/11/2011 10:05:59 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Fins to the left, Finns to the right ...


51 posted on 08/11/2011 10:21:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you know why I love reptiles? It's because they don't play guitars.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

My late wife taught in a predominately minority school where nothing which you experienced occurred. In very few schools does that occur but you are guaranteed to hear about it when it does. In some communities the school is an island of refuge from the violence and misery the kids normally live under. The students are in far greater danger going to and from school than when in it.


52 posted on 08/11/2011 10:24:42 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Tax-chick
How about a split and stuffed infinitive, what is what any appetizing infinitive wants to really and truly, without any silly non-fat or low-carbohydrate nonsense, be?
53 posted on 08/11/2011 10:48:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Non plaudite. Modo pecuniam jacite." - - Don't applaud. ....Just throw money)
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To: arrogantsob

I went to 6 different schools in two different states. My husband went to 14 different schools in 2 different states. It’s pretty much the same everywhere. Just because teachers don’t know about it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I loved learning but hated school. Most of the teens in our church want to be home schooled. They have asked me to homeschool them but legally I cannot.

The good schools are the ones that are rare not the other way around.


54 posted on 08/11/2011 9:18:35 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: arrogantsob

Also, my husband is a youth minister and he spends a good deal of time in the schools. They are out of control.


55 posted on 08/11/2011 9:20:32 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Your experience is atypical. Sounds like your husband didn’t even make it through a year at the same school. Were you military families?

Certainly the situation you describe is not typical of smaller schools or private schools. Nor does it fit any of the suburban schools around my area.

You seem to believe there is practically open warfare in almost all schools. In actuality the danger in schools is completely in proportion to the number of welfare families within them.

Schools being used to do more than they were intended to do (educate kids) is the main reason there are failures. Now they are expected to be surrogate parents for the welfare class.

I also suspect you expect different things from schools which they cannot provide.


56 posted on 08/15/2011 1:53:47 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

Sadly my experience is not atypical. As I said my husband is a youth pastor and we work in the schools. We hear and see the things that go on. But you can keep believing that things are similar to when you grew up if you like. That is your right.


57 posted on 08/15/2011 3:20:51 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Recovering_Democrat

guilty until proven innocent.

(s) its for the children....(/s)


58 posted on 08/15/2011 3:25:20 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

guilty until proven innocent.

(s) its for the children....(/s)


59 posted on 08/15/2011 3:25:34 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: aberaussie

DCF is looking for budget money.

They are essentially a crony job outfit and are looking for excuses to exist.


60 posted on 08/15/2011 3:31:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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