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We don't do water cannon, we rely on consent ( Theresa May, Home Secretary UK)
Mail Online ^ | 12:18 PM on 9th August 2011 (UK) | REBECCA CAMBER

Posted on 08/09/2011 5:14:02 AM PDT by expat1000

Vigilantes were forced onto the streets last night to protect their homes and businesses after police failed to materialise at many of the scenes of looting and violence which swept across London.

As officers lost control of the streets locals were forced to take the law into their own hands, arming themselves with sticks and chasing looters away from their properties.

In Dalston and Hackney, north-east London, Turkish shopkeepers and their families fought back against looting youths, before spending the night standing shoulder-to-shoulder in an attempt to deter further attacks. One man said: 'This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.' Despite increasing calls for the police to get tough with the rioters, Home Secretary Theresa May today sparked anger as she appeared to dismiss the notions that water cannons and even the Army could be used to ensure violent scenes are not repeated tonight.

As police were slammed for appearing to let looters run riot under their noses, Mrs May instead advocated a more softly-softly approach.

She said: 'The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: PapaBear3625

And............the evidence against him presented in a court of law and the jury that decided he deserved the death penalty immediately??????????? Or does that not matter.


101 posted on 08/09/2011 10:38:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Lazamataz

ROFL.


102 posted on 08/09/2011 10:38:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Which one?


103 posted on 08/09/2011 10:39:11 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Winniesboy

Was the dead guy in possession of a firearm?


104 posted on 08/09/2011 10:39:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: mewzilla

Was the gun the dead guy’s or the cabbie’s?


105 posted on 08/09/2011 10:40:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

And the law that authorizes harming them as opposed to arresting them?


106 posted on 08/09/2011 10:40:36 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mewzilla

There was a firearm in the car, in which there were the dead man and another person, the driver. That’s all we know for certain as yet.


107 posted on 08/09/2011 10:41:38 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: CaptainK

No Cap I wouldn’t offer them a cup of coffee, in fact.

I could shoot someone threatening me with harm or I could wait for the po po to demonstrate their legendary courage and arrest the rioter. However, you know when you need the po po in a second, they are minutes away, and at any rate, they are more interested in making a report than in tackling a rioter, so don’t expect them until the event is overwith.


108 posted on 08/09/2011 10:43:54 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Winniesboy
This is interesting....

Mark Duggan was carrying converted blank-firing handgun when he was shot dead by a single police bullet Probe into 29-year-old's death could take six months

109 posted on 08/09/2011 10:44:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yeah. True. the rioters are criminals. But where is the law that says you can harm them? You can arrest them adn take them to trial.


110 posted on 08/09/2011 10:45:45 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: samtheman

You are right; all I know is what was reported by our integrity filled journalistic corps. Same as you.


111 posted on 08/09/2011 10:46:57 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

You would shoot them , but the police can’t?


112 posted on 08/09/2011 10:47:30 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Papa

So do I understand you correctly that you are advocating mass murder of rioters?


113 posted on 08/09/2011 10:48:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mewzilla

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/07/police-attack-london-burns


114 posted on 08/09/2011 10:49:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: expat1000

consent?

what if the rioter requires the consent of police surrender?

what do they do play simon says to the death?


115 posted on 08/09/2011 10:49:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

If you allow the government to put down a riot by harming rioters, no one’s rights are safe including yours.


116 posted on 08/09/2011 10:51:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
So do I understand you correctly that you are advocating mass murder of rioters?

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

Act like feral, rabid animals and we will PUT YOU DOWN like feral, rabid animals.

117 posted on 08/09/2011 10:51:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Obama is crashing the United States on purpose.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Nope you are wrong

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/07/police-attack-london-burns


118 posted on 08/09/2011 10:52:03 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
If you allow the government to put down a riot by harming rioters, no one’s rights are safe including yours.

So, in your scenario, riots cannot be put down by any means that have teeth.

So the riots, in short, cannot be put down.

Which means total anarchy: Murder, robbery, rape, arson, looting.

And you are okay with all that.

119 posted on 08/09/2011 10:53:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Obama is crashing the United States on purpose.)
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To: 100American

what are you babbling about , first you say anarchy is not “allowable” then you say citizens can overthrow a government...your thoughts are all jumbled up


120 posted on 08/09/2011 10:54:12 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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