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Pollster: Americans Are “Pre-Revolutionary”
Vision To America ^ | Monday, August 8, 2011 | unknown

Posted on 08/08/2011 11:51:03 AM PDT by maddog55

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To: Anti-Bubba182
I don’t see much in the way of violent revolution, but I do see a lot of noncompliance and noncooperation with government. Stop lights only work if people cooperate.


And when the regime deals with noncompliance it will turn to violence and oppression which will INDEED lead to violent revolution. You think the smucks will only laugh at tea party rallies when the productive class goes Galt and there are no more funds to steal (tax)...

81 posted on 08/08/2011 3:00:26 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: katana

Yeah, but what if it’s the utes that are out there protestin, demanding that Obama be made King?


82 posted on 08/08/2011 3:01:21 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I think we need to put a million in the streets in each of the ten biggest countries in US Ameriker THEN they’ll listen to us.


83 posted on 08/08/2011 3:03:39 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: MrB
The left has their perfect “proxy army” in the urban youths that have been stampeded into “beat whitey” nights, etc.


Trust me MrB... that mess will end soon as "whitey" learns to SHOOT back...Its not so much of an army as a very loose coalition of brown/black shirt street thugs. Think of this as 1923 and the Munich Beer Hall Putsch...How many rounds did the Reichswehr have to shoot before the Nazis cleared the streets?

84 posted on 08/08/2011 3:05:18 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Spktyr

You shouldn’t knock down the field tactics of the day so much. It was the time-tested, best way to get a volume of fire on a target. The best you could do firing from behind trees was spray and pray, comparatively. Moreover, firing from concealment was what would today be considered terrisn or bushwhacking.


85 posted on 08/08/2011 3:09:46 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Pessimist

“Yet the vast majority will be retained in the next election.”

It’s the people who say “my congressman is good it’s the rest of them that are the problem”. Their congressman brings home the pork for his district so he’s the local hero. Those voters only look at their own greedy backyard with no concern for the rest of the country or the generations to come.


86 posted on 08/08/2011 3:10:58 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: ichabod1

Yeah, but one ended up with pretty much a foregone conclusion and the other didn’t. :P

If you showed up with a lot less men than the other side in a set-piece fight you pretty much just lost back then. Your only viable (if then-distasteful) technique to win if you had markedly fewer men was ambush, sniping and guerrilla tactics.

Yes, I know standards of honor and such back then were different but from a modern standpoint, it doesn’t make a lot of sense.


87 posted on 08/08/2011 4:29:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Where is the Phoenix area muster


88 posted on 08/08/2011 4:37:41 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: muir_redwoods
dying for the Constitution is not the worst fate I can imagine

There is no greater honor than to die protecting your family and your country

89 posted on 08/08/2011 4:47:54 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: papertyger

Friendlies controlled the airspace.


90 posted on 08/08/2011 4:51:59 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: longtermmemmory

Ok book. Movie sucked.


91 posted on 08/08/2011 4:54:12 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Spktyr

Morgan at Cowpens.


92 posted on 08/08/2011 4:57:32 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: maddog55

The global markets crash and violence across the US and UK and Arab world are symptoms: its is indeed a global pre-revolutionary political and economic melt down. If the tide is not changed, we will see some amazing things in the next few weeks. I doubt the US government can survive more than a few weeks in the face of Syrian or Libyan or Cairo style opposition. What would Dick Obama do? Waco assaults in every city?


93 posted on 08/08/2011 6:19:12 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: maddog55

“What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that the people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” - - - Thomas Jefferson


94 posted on 08/08/2011 6:21:15 PM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yup. He didn’t exactly play by the rules either. Having your troops “run away” to sucker the enemy into attacking your ‘remaining’ troops, only to have them circle the battlefield and hit the enemy from the flank with cavalry mounting a counterbalancing charge from the opposite flank, was just not done back then.

Having the ‘skirmishers’ aka ‘sharpshooters with rifles’ snipe the officers first when possible and then execute a fighting retreat to the militia lines rather than stand unsupported on-line and get pounded by the Brits probably contributed more to the success of the operation than any other part as after that point the British seem to have suffered a progressive breakdown in leadership and were unable to recognize what was being done to them.

Tarleton’s arrogance didn’t hurt either.


95 posted on 08/08/2011 7:04:48 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Other examples I actually like better for unconventionality are Fort Watson (”Hm, attacking the Fort on line doesn’t seem to be working - let’s put a scaffold up in the air outside musket shot and have our guys snipe the crap out of the Redcoats on the walls”) and Augusta (”Well, attacking on line doesn’t seem to be working here either - that scaffold idea worked really well at Fort Watson, let’s do that again... only this time let’s put a cannon up there!”).

The British *really* took offense to those two losses.


96 posted on 08/08/2011 7:20:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Nat Turner

That’s part of their “protected status”, though, and what makes them a perfect proxy army for the left.
Everyone knows how someone fighting back would be charged by the law, and how the media would portray it.

Most don’t want to go through that hassle.


97 posted on 08/08/2011 7:24:39 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Spktyr
True. What strikes me as odd is that it took well into the war for alternatives to develop. Very rigid thought patterns of war then.

In the coming war I hope the patriots are more resourceful.

Shoot officers(suits) first.

Shoot coordinators next.

Shoot twice and go home. If ten guys did that in ten large cities everyday there would be complete chaos.

Start your target list now.

98 posted on 08/08/2011 7:33:01 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Rule 1: If playing by the rules means your enemy always wins and you always lose, *don’t* play by the rules.

It took the American colonists *forever* to figure that out.


99 posted on 08/08/2011 7:52:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: clamper1797

Wish I knew! I’d probably drive from KY to sign up.


100 posted on 08/08/2011 9:25:55 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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