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Most post offices targeted for closure are in GOP districts
The Hill ^ | August 7, 2011 | Christopher Goins

Posted on 08/07/2011 6:15:39 AM PDT by maggief

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To: fso301
Not so many welfare checks delivered from GOP post offices.

We have a winner!

41 posted on 08/07/2011 7:06:52 AM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: KantianBurke
There is no constitutional guarantee that every citizen has a post office conveniently located around the corner.

That's your strawman. You wrestle him by yourself.

I will not tolerate my tax dollars be blown on maintaining folks’ lifestyles.

"Blown" is subjective. But taxes, that's what they do. They maintain lifestyles that are generally agreed upon by society that they wouldn't get through the market.

This isn't an anarcho-capitalist site.

42 posted on 08/07/2011 7:08:11 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Vaduz
Hell no. Sell the Post office to Fedx. UPS sucks.
43 posted on 08/07/2011 7:11:19 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: cripplecreek
That’s what I would do, cut back on some of the rural deliveries (Say within a mile radius) and cut postal service to 4 days per week.

Some of these closures here will mean a mere 30 mile round trip to get the mail will become 50 miles or more.

You have to have acreage to ranch or farm here, and that adds up to distance from large towns.

44 posted on 08/07/2011 7:12:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: maggief
The closures would save about $200 million annually for the ailing USPS, which has urged the end of its Saturday service.
GOOD! A lot the bad, get your blood boiling mail, comes on Saturday and you can't call anyone to complain until Monday. So you sit there for a day and a half stewing.

So ending Saturday deliveries is fine by me.

Then all you have to worry about is getting your Friday mail early so you can call the asshats that day -- like before 5:00 pm Central Time :-)

45 posted on 08/07/2011 7:15:41 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: KantianBurke; cripplecreek
The problem, gentlemen, is that the USPS insists on charging the exact same postage to deliver Letter A from 101 3rd Street in Miami to 103 3rd Street in Miami and also Letter B from 101 3rd Street in Miami to Nome Alaska.

If the USPS charged a market rate depending on distance, they would not be bankrupt.

While it is completely ridiculous that the government is in the business of delivering private mail in the first place, the business model the USPS is using is even more ridiculous.

And then there is another matter: there is no reason why communication needs to be anything other than digital at all anymore - written communications are an expensive luxury which people should be prepared to pay for. Shipping objects makes sense, but shipping words does not.

46 posted on 08/07/2011 7:16:45 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Ridiculous comment...

No..thinking you have a 'right' to home delivery is.

47 posted on 08/07/2011 7:17:26 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: triumphant values

“That’s your strawman.’

That’s what the guy is demanding - a post office in close proximity to his home so he won’t have to drive out of his way. There is no constitutional “right” to a nearby post office.

“They maintain lifestyles that are generally agreed upon by society that they wouldn’t get through the market.”

In case you haven’t noticed this country is broke and in deep debt. To alleviate the situation numerous options are being discussed one of which is the shuttering of underutilized post offices. “Society” i.e. the Congress seem have settled on that option.


48 posted on 08/07/2011 7:17:28 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: cripplecreek
Yippie a 10 mile round trip to get mail.

Well, look on the bright side.

At least half your mail has you "Pre-Approved" for something.

And the other half says "You may have already won!"

49 posted on 08/07/2011 7:17:53 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Obama and the Dems - The flash mob raiding the Treasury.)
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To: KantianBurke
Your insistence on having taxpayers subsidize post offices so God forbid you don’t have to drive very far and be inconvenienced sounds alot more Marxist to me.

The Post Office and the military are the only two things that the Constitution authorizes funding for. Hardly Marxist.

50 posted on 08/07/2011 7:21:04 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: maggief

I’m shocked!


51 posted on 08/07/2011 7:25:24 AM PDT by JayAr36
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To: denydenydeny

I never said that all post offices should be closed. Those that are under-performing and are losing money need to be shut down. Our fiscal situation is very dire and that is a legitimate step in correcting that. It sucks for the guy who has to drive 10 miles to get his mail but he has a number of options to deal with it. Sucking away valuable tax dollars so he won’t be troubled aint one of them.


52 posted on 08/07/2011 7:25:32 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke
I will not tolerate my tax dollars be blown on maintaining folks’ lifestyles.

Fine with me. Consider that the people served by these offices will be driving considerably more and that will affect the price of fuel.

Pay your gasoline dollars, then.

Increase the overhead for the ranch/farm, and you'll pick up the cost down the line, too.

The tax dollars you should worry about go to people who aren't producing anything except more non-producers, not on some Constitutionally authorized expenditure.

53 posted on 08/07/2011 7:26:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SuzyQue
Thank you for being willing to sacrifice in order to get federal spending under control. Too many conservatives support cutting gov’t spending right up until the point that the cuts begin to affect them. Then all of the sudden, the federal spending becomes indispensable or constitutionally ‘required’ or some other such nonsense.
54 posted on 08/07/2011 7:27:17 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: maggief
That's too bad. I love the Postal Service!

I depend on them and they've not let me down. They've done a great job for me in every town, city and state I've lived in, all my life. Not perfect, but damn good.

55 posted on 08/07/2011 7:27:59 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Popman

“Plus many of these PO that are closing are small rural areas that simply don’t pay for themselves.”

True, but in Ohio, they’re closing many in the cities of Cleveland, Columbus, and Dayton.


56 posted on 08/07/2011 7:29:05 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: KantianBurke
That’s what the guy is demanding - a post office in close proximity to his home so he won’t have to drive out of his way. There is no constitutional “right” to a nearby post office.

Ten miles to the post office is a long damn way. Rural America has been kicked and depopulated enough over the last 40 years in this country. Way past time to stop. Moving them into urban areas greatly increases the probability their children will become liberals.

In case you haven’t noticed this country is broke and in deep debt.

Yeah, from the 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities for unconstitutional programs. Not from the pittance the constitutional Post Office costs.

57 posted on 08/07/2011 7:29:41 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: triumphant values
The Post Office is one of the very few constitutional things the Feds actually engage in. It was meant to be subsidized from day one.

I wouldn't say they were intended to be subsidized. More user funded and I'd be happy to pay as much as a dollar to send a letter but the government has price fixed them.

It would be pretty expensive for me since I already spend $5 or $10 per day on postage anyway but my costs would be my costs alone. It should also be noted that both UPS and FedEx deliver about 50% of what I get to the post office and the post office gets a fee for handling those packages.
58 posted on 08/07/2011 7:30:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek

Don’t worry that’s next. And they should put you on a RR.


59 posted on 08/07/2011 7:31:02 AM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: maggief

One of the few deals where there are more Republican rural areas that have smaller offices that cost more per-piece to maintain.


60 posted on 08/07/2011 7:33:08 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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