Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 7 August 2011

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 7 August 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

August 7th, 2011

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rep. Paul Ryan. R-Wis.; Bill Miller, chairman and CIO of Legg Mason Capital Management; presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., and John McCain, R-Ariz; former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan; Austan Goolsbee, former chairman, White House Council of Economic Advisers.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): White House adviser David Axelrod; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; and Howard Dean, former Vermont governor and ex-Democratic Party chairman.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley; Robert Ford, U.S. ambassador to Syria; author Gloria Steinem.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Steve Forbes, CEO of Forbes; Larry Summers, former White House economics adviser; California Gov. Jerry Brown; Anita Dunn, former White House communications adviser; former Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va.; Mike McConnell, former director of national intelligence.

[kabar]

We can do both. The point that the Reps must make time and again is that Obama is doing things that are unprecedented in our history. He is transforming this country and it is a political issue, not an economic one.

Instead, the Reps continue to draw some sort of moral equivalency between what Reps did and what Obama is doing. I heard again from Ryan this morning when he said both parties were responsible for the deficit and national debt problem. The fact is that Obama is exponentially worse and he has institutionalized these changes into our political system. Obamacare is less about health care than it is about expanding the role of government.

Under President Obama, government will spend more on welfare in a single year than President George W. Bush spent on the war in Iraq during his entire presidency. Most of Obama's increases in welfare spending are permanent expansions of the welfare state, not temporary increases in response to the current recession. According to the long-term spending plans set forth in Obama's FY 2010 budget, combined federal and state spending will not drop significantly after the recession ends. In fact, by 2014, welfare spending is likely to equal $1 trillion per year.

The unemployment chart is just another example of how Obama is transforming this country without any real challenge from the Reps. The Reps signed on to the extension of unemployment benefits as part of their deal to extend the Bush tax cuts. And there will be pressure to extend unemployment benefits again before the elections. We are endorsing structural changes that will change the nature of this country.

Yes, we need to create jobs and stimulate growth. But if the increased revenue that comes from that growth is plowed back into the welfare state and used to expand it, then we have the lost the war. The struggle we are engaged in is not about balancing the books, rather, it is a political battle over the role government. We are currently losing the battle. Mack Penny doesn't address the real problem. Today, the main function of government is the redistribution of wealth.

[Reagan Man]

MR. CASTELLANOS: [Perry], he'll get some strength on the conservative side, but only for awhile. He has some challenges. One of them is that people think he's a little bit of a coffee table book, just kind of Sarah Palin with a skirt, not a substantive candidate.

Alex is another mealy mouth Rocky Republican whose time has passed.

[skinkinthegrass]

thanks, for the ping....look like, the "usual suspects"...
Ryan (FReedom-MN?), The only one worth watching.
double posts. :D

[onyx]

LOL. Interesting....I can’t even visualize Alex and his time has already passed! Pity.

I hate those *Rockefeller Republicans*.

[Cheerio]

Paul Ryan needs to step up, run for President and replace Obama.

It is mind blowing to think of the impact this team could make on righties and moderates alke.

[maica]

Obama and his thugs get to everyone and everything.

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True!

The Catholic Hospital Association was very supportive of Obamacare passing: seen as more money for the hospitals. Apparently, they thought they had an “understanding” about the future insistence on (not) providing contraceptive care to staff via insurance policies.

Surprise! Surprise! The “understanding” was only in their minds, and the new demands start soon.

Learning to depend on “government money” is always a bad idea!

[maica]

The Ernest Ainsley hour is on my local Fox affiliate before the Sunday Show, so I sometimes see the last few minutes of what looks like a huge crowd of what some say are acting like “mindless robots.”

I believe that all the leftists whose names are on this thread: Maddow, Matthews, Kerry, Gregory, etc, perceive anyone who is not a ‘progressive’, as being similar to the tv evangelist’s dancing, chanting crowd. They refuse to believe that we are thinking, working, positive Americans with reasonable intelligence.

[Girlene]

Here's an example of an easy to read pie chart of our economy....and this was for 2010. Goodness knows what it is now. From the Business Insider, in Feb, 2011:

[rodguy911]

Can’t argue with anything you say. The march to Socialism is the key. If its not stopped no matter how many great ingenious budget plans we have we are doomed. Lets hope our leaders can get the job done. They will get all the help they need from us.

[maica]

Regarding that graph of the consistent trend of unemployment weeks, then the shoot up.

It corresponds with the number of weeks of UI checks that are available. Traditionally 26 weeks what what employers and state laws offered. “Looking for work” is a euphemism in the labor statistics industry for “collecting a check.” People not eligible for UI are not considered to be “in the labor force.” One of the requirements for continuing to receive the check is to answer ‘yes’ to the question, “are you continuing to look for work?”

Baltimore city is full of men who are not “in the labor force.” They are as invisible to these stats as if they were all in grammar school or a hospital somewhere.

[rodguy911]

Just reading this chart makes one sick.

One thing we darn sure need to do is stop the equivalency game the left plays that GW was just as bad as zero. The two can and should never be compared just look at the truth.

Zero has plunged us trillions into debt, nationaled 1/6 of the economy with obmacare,tzared us to death,taken away our liberties and brought us closer to socialism than ever. GW wasn't even in the same game as zero.

[tcrlaf]

“The march to Socialism is the key.”

The real danger isn’t so much Obama and his minions themselves.

It’s an electorate so dumbed down, and so disconnected from the process, that they would actually ELECT someone like Hussein Obama.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

You are right....
However, if we fought a war like WWII and leveled the opposition; then went in with a Marshall plan to deconstruct the Taliban...

But even then, Afghanistan is not Germany with large cities and an educated populace to “reform”.
Then we have POH-keestan, not exactly Italy after WWII.
Yeesh.

Maybe we need a new way: Shock and Awe; Leveling and THEN the insurgency concept.

I’ve been watching too many of the Borgia series..ha.

[Miss Marple]

Well, mojitojoe, I have a forgiving heart, especially when I know the vote was done from ignorance, not malice. She is a good-hearted person who was simply tricked by Obama because she is not very political.

[rodguy911]

You are absolutely correct and that’s where the New Media comes in to play with Rush at the very top of making the complex easy to understand.Simplifying sophisticated topics is everything. If we can’t bring the level down to the “hope and change” crowd mentality we won’t compete.

[rodguy911]

Afghanistan is a different animal with all the poppy revenue to deal with. we have a mixed record at best in dealing with countries dealing drugs.

[kabar]

So you are saying the numbers are even higher? Regardless, the graph shows how unprecedented this current trend is. It is simply unbelievable. The federal government extended benefits out to 99 weeks, which has something to do with it.

There is also the disturbing fact that older workers, those over 50, may never get their jobs back. We have exported many of our good paying jobs and the global economy has changed our domestic work environment. The flood of immigrants, legal and illegal, have depressed wages and hurt especially unskilled and blue collar labor. And that will continue to spread affecting most workers in this country. 8% to 9% unemployment may become the new norm.

And what happens to a growing permanent underclass that is unemployed and unemployable? Will it result in increased crime and civil unrest similar to the flash mobs that seem to be materializing in our cities? The unemployment rate for blacks in the inner cities is probably close to 50%. I view the long term unemployment rate as a very disturbing trend that has much broader implications for our society that is changing very rapidly demographically.

[CincyRichieRich]

Here’s an example of an easy to read pie chart of our economy....and this was for 2010. Goodness knows what it is now. From the Business Insider, in Feb, 2011:

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Can I talk you into sending it to Rush, Hannity, Levin and a few reps like Boehner? Urge them to do what we are saying in this thread...thanks!!!!!!!

[Artcore]

“What’s even scarier is what will they resort to when they get really desperate which is on the way, IMHO.”
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It will be equally scary when a free people feel threatended by un-Constitutional actions. A heavily armed free people that is. If he’s perceived as acting outside of the bounds of the Constitution...well, lets just say, it won’t be good.

As I said, chaos is only good if the dictator can control it. It’s like grabbing the proverbial dog by the ears.

[Miss Marple]

kabar, my husband has worked overseas for 2 1/2 years, because there are no jobs for him here. He’s in mining. He worked in Africa for 2 years and is now in southeast Asia. I see him about twice per year.

I am running a small business on ebay to supplement my Social Security, which I took early because I was afraid I wouldn’t get anything. I have no pension, having worked at a variety of short-term jobs or part-time while raising my family. Social Security is it for me. Husband and I are trying to pay off mortgage so he can afford to come home.

We don’t even enter into the statistics. Neither does my son, who found work after 7 months at half his previous pay, nor my daughter, who is working two part time jobs.

I don’t care what anyone says. This is a depression.