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S&P to the US: Your credit is no good [White House was prepared for, and expecting, a downgrade] [
Salon ^ | Friday, Aug 5, 2011 21:45 ET | By Andrew Leonard

Posted on 08/05/2011 7:38:21 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

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61 posted on 08/05/2011 9:40:17 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Terry Mross
You would be surprised the number of Americans have no ideal what the S&P even is or Moody's for that matter. They do know of the Tea Party...they hear racists, hobbits, murderers of old people, etc. The Left plays to their audience of bleeding hearts liberal arts majors, those under-educated in the world of finance and the market, as it is not their reality; those who want the government to take care of them or just uneducated period and have no desire to learn ..many have agreed they voted for the color of Obama's skin alone in Hopes to pay back "whitey". Untouching them in this crisis they thoroughly enjoy the payback to who they consider rich aka class warfare.

A site that is excellent and concise in reporting economic news as it breaks:

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/

62 posted on 08/05/2011 9:40:37 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: givemELL
Thanks for your post.
63 posted on 08/05/2011 9:43:09 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: RoseofTexas

Hmmm... Bush did sign off on TARP, the Bank Bailouts etc did he not?

I personally believe gas hitting $140 per barrel in 2008, caused by Goldman Sachs BTW, was the spark that lit the casino on fire. Who appointed the Goldman Sachs stooge Bernacke to the Treasury? Who signed off of Paulson heading the Fed? Yep, Pres Bush did. He abandoned his beliefs & the American people during a time of crisis & uncertainty, his final years in office were a failure.


64 posted on 08/05/2011 9:44:13 PM PDT by RC51
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To: fight_truth_decay

In the comment area, there are libs arguing that we the Republicans had just allowed a tax increase, the budget would have been fine.

Of course, these simpletons don’t realize that no amount of income confiscation will ever satiate Washington - there’s always another special interest to buy off with the dollars - and the debt would still never be addressed.

Here in Illinois they increased our income tax by 2% to 5% this year. At the same time, they increased our spending 1.7%, leaving us in an even bigger hole than we were already.

Liberals think you can just spend yourself into a recovery, while a-holes like 0bama use these idiots to achieve purposeful ruination of America for Cloward-Piven gain.


65 posted on 08/05/2011 9:48:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: unkus
"Remember when Moodys fired within when warnings were made "on ratings of mortgage based investments and actively promoted..."

I ALWAYS thought the expert timing was contrived on the Left to win the election with the Help of Barney Frank..but I do not think they ever realized when playing this dangerous game the disasterous consequences it would have to the whole economy, even to their own net worth. They needed a good diaster and they got one; but the pebble skipped across the water too many times before it finally sank. The ripple effect was to be eventually felt world wide.


66 posted on 08/05/2011 9:55:26 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: ConservativeMind
They could learn from the new Republican governor of Maine- Paul LePage!

Have lived in Illinois and have many friends there.

67 posted on 08/05/2011 10:04:36 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

but I do not think they ever realized when playing this dangerous game the disasterous consequences it would have to the whole economy, even to their own net worth.


I agree, but I’m afraid billions of TARP money and other funds went into off-shore accounts for these wicked people. Frank, Dodd, et al probably have huge accounts all over the world.

I believe they still think themselves immune to this disaster which they have brought upon us.


68 posted on 08/05/2011 10:35:59 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: fight_truth_decay

I can hear Bill Clinton’s voice in my head:
“Ha ha ha...”[e-mails pouring in] “Hillary...our country needs us I, mean you—oh boy, new interns to interview...they will be too young to remember, oh boy..!”


You’re exactly right. You’re wording is perfect and I can hear that voice.-— Ohhh babbyy, you’re right. I kan feeel youur pain.


69 posted on 08/05/2011 10:40:04 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The Left still presides over the content of information ... put out there to influence by intimidation, fear mongering and humiliation...

True, they bludgeon their opponents and don't seem to go out of their way much to conceal those actions from the public.

And their audience seems unconcerned.
Why? Because the media is giving them what they want: simple word-constellations that create a comfortable moral formula they can apply to anyone or anything they dislike or envy.

Liberals are wordy-- glib, pretentious, better at talking than doing or thinking. They are perfect for the media, and they now control it.

70 posted on 08/05/2011 11:36:47 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: Windflier

The problem is, no one on Capitol Hill has the cojones to actually uphold their oaths to the Constitution and the American people. The guy is quite literally destroying this nation before our very eyes, but NO ONE will do a damn thing about it.

The biggest problem is 53 dems in the senate. Need 67 to convict. With the media on his side, no way he is convicted.

You must kill the king. Impeachment by the House will only make him stronger for 2012.


71 posted on 08/05/2011 11:58:59 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: EasySt

Hmm ~ the Democrat spenders seem to have the nation by the C.O.Jones’ though. How about getting rid of them first.


72 posted on 08/06/2011 3:49:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: givemELL
"...........the golden halo that helped guarantee liquidity and acceptance of its government securities in global markets

This is, at heart, a political statement. It cannot be based on NUMBERS since we still have our ICBMs (land based and sea based), and our vast fleet of CARRIER GROUPS.

Our economy is still operating at a 2004 base ~ which leaves it as the world's largest single economy ~

Besides, within minutes of the authorization of additional debt our paper was purchased on world markets at the lowest interest rate in history! The world wants our paper.

So, who are these "rating agencies" and why would they be telling us "You're no good, you're no good, you're no good" while simultaneously the world market says "Gimme' that thing"?

This is what the economists and market prognosticators call "the flight to safety", which at this time is far more important than the usually equally powerful "move to quality". The fact that there are some "rating agencies" who want you to believe otherwise highly suggests they have an interest in a different outcome ~ to wit, they do not want the US to be paying .25% when we could be paying 5.25% to their clients.

Berlusconi has the Italian Finanze Polizi on the case and he may well be absolutely correct about what is going on. He is an experienced money manager ~ and employer ~ and entrepreneur. No doubt he has some sense of when someone is cheating.

73 posted on 08/06/2011 4:04:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CPT Clay
The biggest problem is 53 dems in the senate. Need 67 to convict.

Are you factoring in Lindsey and Juan? I don't think all of the Republicans would stick together on a vote to convict.

74 posted on 08/06/2011 5:29:00 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Oldexpat

-——but the downgrade is most of all because the of the size of the debt and it’s growth rate.-——

While that is true, there is also the fact there is neither the means or the will to pay the principal


75 posted on 08/06/2011 5:41:30 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: fight_truth_decay
Why the Tea Party-friendly Republicans of the U.S. House own this epic humiliation

LOLOLOL

Who fought to borrow more and spend more?

Hint: it wasn't the Tea Party or Republicans.

Who fought to borrow less and spend less?

Hint it wasn't Obama or the dying old media.

If Obama got his way we wouldn't be Double AA but junk-bond status.

76 posted on 08/06/2011 5:47:42 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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