Posted on 08/05/2011 3:05:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
If Texas Gov. Rick Perry ultimately decides to run for president, it would shake up the Republican race, directly threatening Michele Bachmann, Tim Pawlenty and the other candidates vying to be the leading alternative to frontrunner Mitt Romney.
But it could also make things tricky for another powerful Texan — Karl Rove.
Rove, who served as George W. Bush’s political strategist in Texas on his way to becoming the GOP’s best known political operative, had a falling out with Perry and his staff when Bush was governor in the 1990’s that has become the stuff of Lone Star lore.
With no signs the two have patched things up — and with some suggestion that Rove, or at least his team, is tilting toward Romney — speculating how their relationship would play out if Perry becomes a candidate has become something of a fixation among Perry supporters and other Republicans in Texas and Washington.
Their interest is not just in the alliances and rifts stemming from a personal feud, but in the possible consequences for one of Texas’s major exports to national politics — money.
As the intellectual spark behind a network of outside groups including American Crossroads and Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies (or Crossroads GPS, for short), Rove is the unofficial leader of a shadow Republican Party that intends to raise tens of millions of dollars on ads to defeat President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats in 2012. But Rove’s network relies to a great extent on a small group of wealthy Texans, including some who have been major donors to Perry.
So, this thinking goes, what happens if Perry becomes a candidate, or even the party’s presidential nominee, and those donors feel compelled — or coaxed by Perry allies — to stop giving to Rove-linked groups and instead to direct their giving to a handful of new overtly pro-Perry groups? Where does that leave the operative once praised by Bush as “the architect” of his reelection victory? And where does that leave the Crossroads groups, which are in the midst of a two-month $20 million ad campaign and are being relied on by Republicans to play such a crucial role next year?
One person who has sent checks to both American Crossroads and Perry’s campaigns predicted that if Perry wins the nomination, his donors will cut off the spigot to Rove.
“Perry winning would be a deathblow for Rove,” said this person, who did not want to be identified talking about political contribution strategies.
Campaign filings show that if even a handful of big Texas donors feel the same way, it could have a major impact. Of the $35 million in reported contributions raised by American Crossroads (Crossroads GPS does not disclose donations), about half (more than $17 million) has come from Texas,according to an analysis of filings with the Federal Election Commission and the Internal Revenue Service.
And 11 of the biggest Texas donors to American Crossroads, a so-called super PAC, have also given Perry $4.7 million since 2001, the earliest year for which Texas state campaign filings are electronically accessible.
Houston homebuilder Bob Perry, for example, who ranks as the biggest known donor to American Crossroads at $7.5 million, has also given at least $3.3 million to Rick Perry (no relation) over the years.
And, while associates of Rove and Perry did not deny the feud persists, most downplayed the anonymous donor’s apocalyptic prediction.
“If Perry became the nominee, I suspect that Rove would do whatever he could to help him get elected,” said Jim Arnold, who ran Perry’s campaign for lieutenant governor in 1998, when the tensions between Rove and Perry’s allies first surfaced. “I think it would be one of those things where they would hold their noses and help each other.”
Rove declined to comment, but someone close to him said he has been “very careful about” maintaining his neutrality in the 2012 primaries, and said Crossroads fundraising wouldn’t be significantly affected by either Perry’s possible entry into the race, or by the fact that a top Crossroads official had formed a super PAC to boost Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and establishment favorite.
“Maybe it could hurt a little bit in Texas, but I don’t think it will have much impact overall,” said the Rove associate.
Other close observers of Rove and Perry over the years are not so sanguine.
“The potential is great that Karl Rove will have some desire to undermine Rick Perry’s presidential bid because Perry is not Karl’s kind of candidate,” said R.G. Ratcliffe, a Texas reporter writing a book on Perry.
And, he added, “If Perry wins and he has the sense that Rove was somehow undermining him in the process, then there could be payback.”
Like most things in Texas politics, the relationship between Rove and Perry is complex. Rove was instrumental in launching Perry’s political career, convincing him to become a Republican after he was elected to the state Legislature as a Democrat, then advising his successful campaign as a Republican for agriculture commissioner.
In 1998, however, when Bush was running for reelection as governor and Perry was running for lieutenant governor, the two campaigns clashed over whether Perry should go negative against his opponent. Rove argued against it, insisting that Bush campaign polling showed Perry comfortably in the lead.
But Perry’s pollster Mike Baselice forecast a much closer result, and the feeling in Perry’s camp was that Rove’s real motivation was concern that negative ads would cut into Bush’s margin of victory, particularly among Hispanic voters, and undermine his efforts to build momentum for Bush’s planned 2000 presidential campaign.
After one particularly contentious phone call, an infuriated Baselice punched a hole in a wall in Arnold’s office. Perry’s campaign eventually went up with negative ads, and squeaked out a narrow victory. Rove offered a “most memorable” election night apology, Baselice told the Houston Chronicle in 2006.
But that did little to end the animosity between the camps.
In 2007, Perry was captured on video at an Iowa event for former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani’s campaign, declaring “George Bush was never a fiscal conservative — never was.”
Soon thereafter, Rove and other Bush allies began aligning themselves behind Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, a longtime Bush family ally, in challenging Perry in last year’s Texas gubernatorial primary. It was in the context of that bitter race that Carney in a 2009 interview with The New York Times Magazine disparaged the Bush crew — and Rove specifically — as “country-club Republicans” and “not conservatives.”
In an email exchange with POLITICO last month, Carney conceded “Karl and I disagreed about some issues in the 1998 race,” but said “the Rove-Perry deal is simply a staff issue and it’s become a huge overblown almost urban myth. Much to do about nothing, other then it comes up with media folks from time to time.”
But it wasn’t just the media that paid attention when it was reported in June that Carl Forti, the political director for the Crossroads groups — a man Rove once described as “one of the smartest people in politics you’ve never heard of” — had formed a pro-Romney super PAC called Restore Our Future, along with one of Crossroads’s go-to ad-makers, Larry McCarthy, and the top in-house campaign lawyer from Romney’s 2008 campaign, Charlie Spies.
The super PAC raised an impressive $12.2 million in the first half of the year from a group of major donors who overlapped substantially with American Crossroads’s disclosed donors, including Bob Perry, who contributed $500,000.
While Crossroads officials have stressed that their groups will not get involved in the 2012 presidential election until after the GOP nomination is decided, Perry backers saw the hand of Rove in Restore Our Honor, and detected what they regarded as bias towards Romney and against Perry in a couple of Rove’s appearances on Fox News Channel, where Rove is a paid commentator.
Within weeks after Restore Our Future’s pro-Romney mission was revealed, no fewer than five super PACs had registered with the FEC with the goal of raising money from Perry supporters to boost a prospective presidential campaign.
“If the folks who came out of Crossroads with the Romney super PAC attack Perry in an unfair way, that, I think, could have some repercussions,” said Bob Schuman, the California strategist running one of the super PACs, Americans for Rick Perry, which already has raised $400,000, including $100,000 from Dallas billionaire Harold Simmons, a wealthy Perry backer who contributed $2 million to American Crossroads last year.
But Carney brushed off a suggestion that Perry’s donors might steer away from the Crossroads groups if Perry entered the race.
“Our donors have given to lots of national groups who have been fighting the good fight and helping to restore fiscal sanity in D.C. and elsewhere,” he wrote, asserting “I don’t think 10 people care about something that happened 12 years ago.”
Meanwhile, Perry has stepped up his outreach to big donors with the resources to fund independent expenditure efforts, attending dinners with top national donors in Austin, and a June retreat in Aspen, Colo., with donors to the Republican Governors Association, which he chairs. He also scheduled an Aug. 9 fundraiser for his Texas campaign committee for which he is soliciting $100,000 contributions — reportedly his biggest ask ever. Plus, he paid a surprise visit late last month to the annual summer donor conference hosted by the billionaire industrialist brothers Charles and David Koch near Vail, Colo.
That appearance also had Republicans talking, since the Kochs’s network has emerged as a more libertarian-leaning ideological counterweight to the Crossroads groups conceived by Rove and fellow Bush-era GOP operative Ed Gillespie before the 2010 midterm elections.
For his part, Mike Duncan , the former Republican Party chief who is president of the Crossroads groups, has taken pains to emphasize that Forti’s association with Romney does not in any way reflect on the neutrality of his groups. “Crossroads and Crossroads GPS will not be involved in the Republican presidential primary,” Duncan told reporters at a June breakfast organized by the Christian Science Monitor.
As for Forti, Duncan said “Carl is a contract employee with American Crossroads. He has other clients. We knew that he had other clients. But clearly, none of us are gonna be involved personally in the presidential campaign.”
Politico spewing more BS.
Just how did Rove do that?
Getting rid of that bastard Rove is a great thing, but having Perry run for President isn’t worth it.
I’m sure a Bachmann Presidency would mean the end for that despicable RINO Rove anyway.
I’m backing Bachmann regardless.
Are you routinely attracted to lost causes, or is this an exception?
Gov. Rick Perry is all about a strong America and that means people working — EMPLOYMENT (like there is in Texas).
Perry’s tackled stifling regulations and lawsuits — addressed the ENVIRONMENT BS. — unions, lawyers and the public sector hate his positions and initiatives.
Perry’s strong on ENERGY.
Perry’s for smart, affordable EDUCATION — the unions and elite professors are up in arms!
Perry says to repeal Obamacare.
Perry says border security must come first and that a wall isn’t going to cut it — that conservative ascendancy is the way.
Perry says to cut taxes, cut regulations, cut spending (as Texas has) — go for the Balance Budget Amendment (just signed one here in Texas — as well as Voter PHOTO ID).
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RICK PERRY:
FIRST — “Don’t spend all the money!”
SECOND — “Have a fair and predictable tax and regulatory policy!”
THIRD — “Have a legal system that doesn’t allow for over suing and make loser pay!”
Rick Perry will have long coattails and the support of governors.
We MUST get our ECONOMIC engine fired up.
Another reason to like Perry. Rove is a proven failure. He needs to retire and live on his dividends or something ... foster retired greyhounds, open a pawnshop ...
How often do you beat your wife?
LOOK, Perry is a one time Democrat, made dumb comments about seceding from the Union and is soft on illegal invaders. I don’t view him as a solid conservative.
Bachmann is an accomplished, intelligent woman who would make a great candidate and even greater President.
I’ve had it with wimpy RINOs from the Lone Star State like the Bushes. I don’t want another.
On the other hand, Perry is more preferable than Pawlenty or Romney, for what its worth.
And aside from that slime ball Huntsman, I’d support ANY GOP candidate - STRONGLY - in the General Election in order to flush that Commie Rat Obama out of the Oval Office.
Rove is out....of the closet?
The lying-fathead-illegal+luvin, prick Rove needs to pitched out of Politics along with the rest of the Bush cabal!
Actually I would prefer that Bush, Rove, Obama and all the other open border tools be convicted for treason to the USA. Then they should meet with a stiff rope from a tall tree!
I think you are ignorant.
Big time —
I’ll second that!
LOOK, Perry is a one time Democrat... Bachmann is an accomplished, intelligent woman... Perry is more preferable than Pawlenty or Romney... aside from that slime ball Huntsman...
All of that is made irrelevant when you say:
I’d support ANY GOP candidate - STRONGLY - in the General Election
As for the following statement, I'm trying to sort out the non-sequitor here. What if Bachmann came from Texas?
I’ve had it with wimpy RINOs from the Lone Star State like the Bushes. I don’t want another.
NEWS FLASH! Perry isn't related to the Bush clan, as if having the same DNA as H.W. effects one's thinking - though that would be interesting study to discover how much DNA influences one's politics.
I think the problem here is that you might be into Emperor worship. That's OK, most people are, and it is for that reason we really need to find an Emperor since its nearly impossible to reeducate 300,000,000 people to think in terms of the current political template.
What I mean by "Emperor" is that the People see one man out on AF-1 to his next vacation destination or the golf course and we are convinced that he sits in his office at night, looks over our personal household bills and orders an army of bureaucrats to "do something about it", when in fact the President and the 535 elected congress critters are just figureheads for the Unseen Hand that actually does all of the work.
Why do you think the Demoncats never had a budget or on game changing legislation like Obamacare, none of the cared to read the bill since most of the language was to be filled in later by faceless bureaucrats, trial lawyers and judges?
Almost all the work is done by NGOs, think tanks, advocacy groups, lobbyists, the banking and insurance cartels, academia, etc. When Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, Obama et al push some legislation, they are only the paid actor as in Sham-wow 'verts to push the product no matter if it is snake-oil. Political DC is essentially the QVC channel for really bad legislation.
So in view of that, tell me exactly what you expect from a President, particularly an out-sider, in the face of tens of millions of bureaucrats who are a bunch of damned mindless malevolent drones doing whatever it takes to survive until they get their eternal pension?
I used to think that it was the Rolodex of the candidate that made the difference - that is, who would fill the cabinet and secretary positions. But as is has been recently demonstrated in DC these past few years, I see it more of a Hollywood styled nuclear bomb where the two clueless protagonists are fighting over which wire to cut, the red or the blue in an incomprehensible mass of wires, switches and lights - as the timer is ticking down seconds away from TEOTWAWKI.
Perry and Romney are the NEW John McLaim(2008)...
You know the ringer that took a dive in 2008...
These people (Perry, Rove, McConnel, Boehner,...) are all part of the same 'insider's club' (i.e. "political elite"). They collude and merge when it's politically and mutually convenient for 'the insider's club'. They have no ideology (thinly masqueraded as "conservative" in thought) but in actuality, it's purposeful ideology is to PRIMARILY serve their corporatist and political elite interests. That is why Sarah Palin is to be feared by them.
I think you are too.
Rick Perry is not eligible anyway. His uncle’s mother’s aunt’s grandmother’s cousin twice removed was born Canada. The Constitution is very clear on this matter.
I agree with you. I think Perry would be a good candidate.
Kenny Vogel is the former employee of George Soros who worked as at his Marxist PR organization.
Leftico was confronted with that fact and has hide from replying !
Leftico is a LYING Obama-Soros front group too.
That’s a good one!!
rove is a turd.
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