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Posted on 08/03/2011 8:58:41 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
Taxed-out New Yorkers are voting with their feet, with a staggering 1.6 million residents fleeing the state over the last decade, a new report found.
That's as if the entire populations of Buffalo, Rochester, Yonkers, White Plains and West Babylon combined had packed up and left.
For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.
The population loss is "the ultimate barometer of New York's attractiveness as a place to work, live and do business," said the report's co-author, E.J. McMahon. "It's the ultimate indication that we've been doing things wrong."
Most analysts blamed New York's high taxes and skyrocketing cost of living for the mass exodus.
The Tax Foundation ranked New York highest in the nation in the combined state and local tax burden in 2008. And as small-business lobbyist Mike Durant noted, New York has also "consistently ranked worst or in the top three worst in business climate.
"You can't suck every penny out of people and expect them to remain in New York," added Durant, New York state director of the National Federation of Independent Business.
Since 1960, New York has lost 7.3 million residents to other states -- a net loss of 2.5 million people after adding in an influx of 4.8 million new immigrants, the study found.
Even counting the state's high influx of immigrants, New York still suffered a bigger net loss than all but three other states during the last decade, according to the analysis of 2010 Census data by the fiscally conservative think tank.
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Fleeing just as fast as their Chevy Volts will take them(could take a while).
After a while, the ony ones left will be the parasites (and I include government workers in this category) who live off the productive labor of others via government extortion taxes.
Illinois and California are in the same condition. Private sector employers are leaving because of the high taxes, and collusion between the local governments and the unions. The remaining residents will be parasites and illegals.
That’s why it is so important FOR THE LEFT to have the federal government take over al of the other states and turn them into socialist utopias. If every state had exactly the same punitive tax rates and oppressive bureaucracies, there would be nowhere to escape to. Except New Zealand. Socialist states are imploding.
I live in NY, and in many ways it is like the former Eastern Europe. I have lived in both places. It has a frozen-in-amber political structure, dominated by Gov’t special interests. Gov’t jobs are the best/only jobs. It makes policies that benefit the metropolis (NY City) that are absolutely destructive to the peasants elsewhere (upstate). Rent-seeking and lobbying for benefits from the Gov’t are “big business” in the State. Connections and who-you-know are very important in doing anything. Young people leave to seek opportunity elsewhere.
I just traded McCarthy (NY 4th) and Schmuckie for Bilirakis (FL 9th) and Marco.
How long until they turn into New Jersey and start taxing people as they move out?
The 3 men in a room is exacerbated by the fact that the biggest communist, Sheldon Silver, the Assembly Speaker wields so much power yet less than 17,000 people voted for him in the last election. In effect less than 17,000 people get to dictate how this state is run especially when we have a dumbocrap governor.
New York State Assembly, District 64 2010
Candidates Votes
Sheldon Silver (D) 16,881
Not only are the most productive citizens fleeing, the immigrants to New York tend to be tax eaters, a lot of them are welfare immigrants. I’ve heard of people from Southern states driving into Rochester and asking for directions to the welfare office. The old Confederacy is dumping its freeloaders on the most liberal states and sucking up their most productive people.
Since tax eaters may actually constitute a plurality of the electorate, New York may actually be in an unrecoverable death spiral, as more of the electorate demand ever more freebies from tax payers.
Like California. New York 2011 is America 2031. We are doomed.
If you drive from the Elmira/Corning area west over 100 miles to Erie, you see a vast corridor that is surprisingly devoid of human activity. New York is a state dominated by big city politics, which means the state government has the socialist mindset. As Margaret Thatcher said, socialism works until they run out of other people’s money. We are seeing this in slow motion in the exodus out of the Empire State, and that socialist Empire is going to going to be left with 100% of nothing except whining, crying and demanding welfare recipients.
As a business person, New York State is #49 on my list of states that I would locate any new facility in. The beat Kalifornia, but not by much.
If you drive from the Elmira/Corning area west over 100 miles to Erie, you see a vast corridor that is surprisingly devoid of human activity. New York is a state dominated by big city politics, which means the state government has the socialist mindset. As Margaret Thatcher said, socialism works until they run out of other people’s money. We are seeing this in slow motion in the exodus out of the Empire State, and that socialist Empire is going to going to be left with 100% of nothing except whining, crying and demanding welfare recipients.
As a business person, New York State is #49 on my list of states that I would locate any new facility in. The beat Kalifornia, but not by much.
I live hear and am trying to flee myself.
This place is horrible.
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Areas my family lived in for three generations have had transformations so drastic in the last decade the areas are now unrecognizable. One area in Queens went from Jewish/Italian/Irish to Eastern Bloc/Hispanic to Korean/Chinese to Sikh to Bangladeshi and is now 15% to 20% eastern African. Was in the area 2 months ago and was the ONLY white guy except the homeless guy wearing a Nazi uniform(he thought we were brothers and wouldn’t stop harassing me). Was able to get a Kenyan appetizer sampler lunch for less than a burger, and at less than half the price in NJ where the Kenyan restaurants pass themselves off as “exotic ethnic fusion cuisine” and charge exorbitant prices.
Amazingly, the German deli which has been there since the area was first developed in 1910’s is still owned by original family, kinda cool to go grab some food at same store my great grandfather shopped at.
Remember NYC pretty much sat out the American revolution.
Interesting, population wise it will shortly be California,
Texas, Florida, New York....
Soon, the only people left will be from New York City. And
whoever owns whatever if still in that state will have their
property “almost” confiscated to feed those tortured
city folks.
As a curious note, is that why for about the last 15 years
many schools on the east coast have developed
very good college football programs, as more and more New Yorkers left town to
move to those states, and their children start going to those
schools...think V.Tech, Virginia, South Carolina,
North Carolina, the Florida schools, Georgia Schools?
The same could be said about California with many people leaving
for places like Utah, Nevada, Colorado, Idaho,Arizona, Oregon,
Washington.
The saddest cases are in Western New York (Buffalo, Rochester, etc.) That is much more like a midwestern Rust Belt environment, yet they are burdened with all of the welfare costs for New York City.
I can retire in 12 years. I’ll be 47. I cannot wait to get out of this State and begin anew. I’ll have a family by then and will move south to a state that doesn’t tax pensions and has a good school system.
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