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Reuters Analysis: If U.S. debt is downgraded, will anyone care?
Reuters ^
| August 2, 2011
| By Ellen Freilich
Posted on 08/02/2011 6:23:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
The United States could lose its triple-A credit rating from at least one rating agency this year, raising the question: Who cares?
Strange as it may sound, a downgrade could resound in financial markets more with a whimper than a bang.
Historical experience suggests a downgrade would produce none of the bond-market angst some fear. Japan lost AAA status more that a decade ago and it has some of the lowest interest rates in the developed world.
As it was with Japan, the big issue for markets is the weak U.S. economy, which could slow further due to the spending cuts in the deficit-cutting deal.
This fiscal restraint could curb spending, job growth and inflation -- the biggest drivers of bond yields.
Also, investors see the United States in a much different situation than crisis countries such as Greece. Awash in debt though it is, the United States is still able to pay its bills while Treasury bonds remain liquid and in demand.
But a well-telegraphed U.S. debt ratings downgrade pales in significance with evidence of flagging economic growth, including Monday's report showing U.S. manufacturing grew at its slowest pace in two years in July.
Consequently, a U.S. debt ratings downgrade would not cause yields to skyrocket, limiting the so-called knock-on effects on other interest rates, such as those on mortgages.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debtlimit; election2012; obamanomics; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The United States could lose its triple-A credit rating from at least one rating agency this year, raising the question: Who cares? Would this question be in the headline or first sentence if the President's name had (R) behind it....? Somehow, I doubt it.
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:25:23 AM PDT
by
edpc
(Ruck Famadan)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Next time, when we have to raise the debt ceiling [Jan 2013], we will have made ourselves legally able to borrow more but not as many will buy - THAT’S what will make rates shoot up.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Interesting—Now that the debt debacle is set to pass, a downgrade in our AAA rating is no longer a big deal.
Surprised I didn’t see that one coming :P
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:26:27 AM PDT
by
Arm_Bears
(I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
No. It only matters when those running the place have accountability.
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:32:29 AM PDT
by
_a_0_0_
To: Oldeconomybuyer
In the short term no, in the long term, it is not good. At this point, the US is still the most reliable trading partner, military force, freedom protector, manufacturer, educator, etc.
Who would you rather have? Russia? China? India?
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:34:22 AM PDT
by
yldstrk
(My heroes have always been cowboys)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
“economy, which could slow further due to the spending cuts”
What spending cuts?
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:40:30 AM PDT
by
dynachrome
("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Now that the manufactured crisis produced the desired results, we’ll hear more of this. The question should be, “Does it matter if we don’t have a AAA president?” Yes, it does.
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:41:10 AM PDT
by
optiguy
(Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
To: dynachrome
economy, which could slow further due to the spending cuts
What spending cuts? The ignorance is breathtaking, isn't it?
Never was gonna be a default.
Never was gonna be any cuts.
I'm on my critter about baseline budgeting. It has to stop.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Apparently no one cares, because Egan-Jones already downgraded USA credit rating to AA+ weekend before last, and LSM did not bother to report it.
This is a small rating agency that turned bearish before the 2008 meltdown. Not even being talked about.
Now about that inflation: Among the causes are government spending and the printing of money, not phantom cuts in government spending.
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:54:50 AM PDT
by
greeneyes
(Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
An equally important question:
Does anyone read al-Reuters?
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posted on
08/02/2011 6:55:53 AM PDT
by
Cringing Negativism Network
(We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
To: yldstrk
The plan is for the IMF to issue SDR’s as the world's reserve currency. You know, the IMF becomes kinda like an International Federal Reserve.
Then the USA can no longer print its way out of debt. Truly will be trapped like Greece.
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:00:32 AM PDT
by
greeneyes
(Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
To: greeneyes
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:05:33 AM PDT
by
yldstrk
(My heroes have always been cowboys)
To: yldstrk
The longer the inevitable is put off, the worse it will be when it inevitably happens. Like the old Fram Oil Filter commercial said, “You can pay me now, or you can pay me later.”
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:08:35 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Strange as it may sound, a downgrade could resound in financial markets more with a whimper than a bang.
FUNNY how a story like this is written by Rooters AFTER the "deal" has been made!!!
Let's get the country in a panic over another CRISIS, but ah well, looking back, well, no, we weren't REALLY going to default, and well, no, the downgrade isn't really anything to look at either, so move along and wait for us to announce the next CRISIS that we can use to take away more of America from you poor saps.
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:17:31 AM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
the weak U.S. economy, which could slow further due to the spending cuts in the deficit-cutting deal.
HUH??!! The spending cuts are going to slow us down further? We have DOUBLED our debt in three years!!! And we still have THE SAME unemployment rate, pathetic growth, horrible consumer confidence, slow to negative new housing construction, etc.
Why is up always down in BizzaroWorld?!
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:20:40 AM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
you betcha!
yhe price of everything goes up.
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:21:54 AM PDT
by
ken21
(ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
translation: if they downgrade us to a C-minus, Europe will still be a DDD and the rest of the world pretty much an F, so what does it matter?
To: Cringing Negativism Network
Does anyone read al-Reuters?
Yes, many idiots read, and more important, BELIEVE what is written in Reuters.....
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:26:08 AM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
WE TEA PARTY HOBBIT TERRORISTS WILL CARE.
LLS
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posted on
08/02/2011 7:37:22 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(juan mccain certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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