[raygunfan]

yeah, meanwhile, back to Realityville....

[raygunfan]

yeah, meanwhile, back to Realityville....

[Jack Hammer]

A writer kidding himself. Period.

[Impy]

Can communism be reformed?

Can the Democrats?

Pedophiles?

[OB1kNOb]

Only Jesus can reform Islam (not Islam’s fake one, but the REAL Son of God).

[onedoug]

The question will become, can we reform within Islam?

[DarthVader]

“Can Islam be reformed?”

Yes with the use of thermonuclear weapons.

[zeugma]

no, it can’t. see my FR homepage

[BlueLancer]

200 years from now, I want their children's children's children
to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead
because their legends tell of fire from the sky.

I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth,
shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines
because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters
crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.

I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with
"If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you",
and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obedience.

I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology
will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea
.. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.

(Original created by BlueLancer ... 13 September 2001)

[Brad from Tennessee]

When Christianity was approximately the same age as Islam is today church authorities were burning Joan of Arc alive.

[The_Reader_David]

Prager is overly optimistic. I fear that what is necessary for a reformed Islam may be seen in three precedents, two outside the Muslim world — the Seige of Muenster and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagaski — and one within the Muslim world — the devastation of Ismaili Islam by the Mongols.

Since the Mongol destruction of their power, the Ismailis have been remarkably pacific, despite formally including jihad as a pillar of Islam, as they regard only the Aga Khan as having the authority to call for jihad in the sense of warfare, and the Aga Khans down the years since then have shown no inclination to do anything of the sort (lately they tend to be very cosmopolitan, Oxbridge educated, and a bit decadent).

The Anabaptists only turned pacifist after the horrible Siege of Muenster, before which they meant to establish their vision of the Kingdom of God by force of arms. Likewise, the last fanatical cult to use its members as guidance systems for bombs (actually a new feature for Islam, post-Saayed-Qutb) was the Shintoist Imperial Cult from which, through the alchemy of a severe defeat involving atomic bombing, pacifist Japan arose.

I fear that a universal reformation of Islam into a religion compatible with civilized norms (be they Christian, Jewish, Taoist, Buddhist, or even post-Christian secularist) would require a traumatic defeat of similar sort dealt to the ummah as a whole. Probably there really should be contingency plans for nuking Mecca and Medina drawn up against the possibility that someone manages to unite the ummah in a full-on old-style jihad.

[newfreep]

Until they burn their “Book of Stanic Verses”, islam will always remain a political movement like communism that hides behind the false veil of religion.

[IbJensen]

“A muslim man can have sexual pleasure with a little girl as young as a baby. But he should not penetrate her vaginally, however he can sodomize her”. (Tehriro vasyleh, fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990)

[aruanan]

Poor guy doesn't appear to realize that Islam has been reformed and the militant jihadis and the Taliban are the result. Whatever was bad about it 100 years ago has been reformed to be so much worse.