Navy prepares submarines for 1st female officers

nctimes.com ^ | 29 July 2011 | Michael Melia

[dennisw]

What woman in her right mind wants to be in a tin can under the ocean? Plenty of guys are not temperamentally suited for it either.....

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[Arrowhead1952]

My brother, who served on a fast-attack nuclear submarine for 4 years, says this social engineering will be nothing short of disastrous.

My neighbor was an XO and CO of a fast attack nuke too, and when he explained how small the living quarters are, I thought "No way is this a good idea".

[boomop1]

OK

[jjm2111]

>>>>”I know some women officers who do a good job and deserve everything they achieve.”

I’ve been comissioned for 13 years, mostly as a reservist, but with two mobilizations since 9/11. In my experience, I have never met a female officer (or senior noncom) who was competent at command. I have encountered female officers who are competent specialists, like JAGs, Intel, PAOs, Doctors, etc., but not one who was a good leader in the traditional military sense.

It’s the second-guessing, the lack of deciseveness, or women’s emotional stuff that clouds their judgement and, in my experience, makes them poor commanders. And that’s in the people who appear to me to be fundamentally decent human beings.

I’ve personally worked for an XO who had Holly Graf tendencies. A CO I worked for would vacation on the government dime while pretending to visit teams in the field. Both were clueless on mission basics.

[Vermont Lt]

Been a while since you were a young, hormone driven, 20 something.

If the opportunity arose, I would be able to find a nice, obscure spot for a little recreation. And given ten minutes, there are probably dozens that could be found on a sub.

[ctdonath2]

“Every human culture is based on ‘Women and children first’ – and any attempt to do it any other way leads quickly to extinction.”
- R.A.Heinlein

[ArrogantBustard]

If the attitude she brings to the boat is even a tithe of the attitude represented in your cartoon, she has no place in any military organization, in any capacity whatsoever. She is psychologically unfit. Furthermore, I would not hire such a person in a civilian workplace, nor would I marry her.

Attitudes, decisions and actions have consequences.

[SkyDancer]

Oh for pete’s sake - it was satire.

[Tatze]

49 posts and not a single 'Down Periscope' reference?? You all are slipping!

Lt. Cmdr Dodge: Men, at ease. I'd like to introduce you to the newest member of our crew, Lt. Emily Lake. Emily is part of a pilot program to test the feasibility of women serving on submarines. She's going to be our diving officer.
Stepanek: Can she do a one-and-a-half inward back in the layout position?
[laughter]
Lt. Cmdr Dodge: All right, look, gentlemen! I know this is an unusual situation. Can't be easy for Lt. Lake here to be thrown into a jungle such as this, and I know it will make things hard on all of us...
[laughter]
Lt. Cmdr Dodge: Let me re-phrase that. It's going to make things *difficult* on all of us as well. But if we just work together as a team, I'm sure we can handle ourselves...
[laughter]
Lt. Cmdr Dodge: *Comport* ourselves as professionals. That is all.

[DungeonMaster]

I’ve heard from a son who is in the Navy that a certain Aircraft carrier is as racially divided as a prison and that there is a prostitution ring on board.

[smokingfrog]

Warning - NSFW

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