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WHIP COUNT: House leaders in both parties seek votes to pass debt-limit deal (List)
The Hill ^ | 08/01/11 | Hill Staff

Posted on 08/01/2011 9:41:43 AM PDT by Qbert

The debt-limit deal announced on Sunday night is expected to attract more than 60 votes in the Senate, but its outlook in the House is much more cloudy.   Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) will need Democratic votes to clear the bill through the lower chamber. How many remains unclear.  

The following is a rundown of The Hill’s constantly updated whip count. Please send tips and feedback to     LAST UPDATED ON AUG. 1 at 11:56 a.m.

RECENT UPDATES -- Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.), Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.), Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.), Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), Paul Tonko (D-N.Y.), Tim Walz (D-Minn.), Pete King (R-N.Y.), Tom Graves (R-Ga.), Mel Watt (D-N.C.), Sandy Levin (D-Mich.), Jason Altmire (D-Pa.), Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas), Peter Welch (D-Vt.), Ted Deutch (D-Fla.)

House lawmakers who support deal or who will likely support it (21)

Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) – Issued statement on Sunday suggesting she will back it.

John Boehner (R-Ohio) – Speaker working to minimize defections, but there will be plenty.

Kevin Brady (R-Texas)

Eric Cantor (R-Va.) – House majority leader expressed support in Sunday GOP conference call.

Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) -- Put out supportive statement Sunday night.

Tom Cole (R-Okla.) – A team player for the House GOP conference.

Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) – Tells Wall Street Journal new deal sounds similar to "what I voted for the other day."

Jo Ann Emerson (R-Mo.)

Barney Frank (D-Mass.) – During appearance on "Morning Joe," Frank said he believes deal could have been worse, though he favors the military cut provisions. Asked for comment, Frank's office said he is withholding comment at this time. 

Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.) -- A yes vote.

Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) – Member of GOP leadership team.

Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) – House minority whip did not rave about bill, but sounded supportive on Monday in TV interviews.

Mike Kelly (R-Pa.)

Pete King (R-N.Y.)

Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) – Gave deal positive reviews in interview with Politico.

James Lankford (Okla.) -- Leaning yes

Donald Manzullo (R-Ill.)

Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) – Expressed support during GOP conference call on Sunday night.

Paul Ryan (R-Wis.)

Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) – Head of the Democratic National Committee; she could play key role in whipping effort.

Allen West (R-Fla.) – Leaning yes.  

House lawmakers who will vote no or are leaning no (12)

Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) – White House hopeful announced Sunday she is a no. She voted no on Boehner bill.

Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) – Possible Senate hopeful said he is a probable "no" vote. He voted no on Boehner bill.

Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) – Head of the Congressional Black Caucus called it a "sugar-coated Satan sandwich."

Donna Edwards (D-Md.) – On Sunday, she tweeted, “Nada from million/billionaires; corp tax loopholes aplenty; only sacrifice from the poor/middle class? Shared sacrifice, balance? Really?”

Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.) – Co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus has ripped deal, saying on July 31 that it was crafted for “right-wing radicals.”

Tom Graves (Ga.) – Voted no on Boehner bill. Will vote no again.

Jim Jordan (Ohio) – Firm no. Voted no on Boehner bill. But aide says conservative won't whip against measure.

Connie Mack (R-Fla.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.) – On MSNBC, Nadler said 80 percent of House Democratic Caucus would reject any bill to the right of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) debt measure. Tells gaggle of reporters on Monday that he'll vote no.

Ron Paul (Texas) – White House hopeful expected to reject bill. He voted no on Boehner bill.

David Schweikert (R-Ariz.) – Leaning no.

Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) – “We can do better, and we have to do better,” he told CBS News. Voted no on Boehner bill.  

  Undecided/Still reviewing/Unclear House Republicans

Sandy Adams (Fla.)

Robert Aderholt (Ala.)

Todd Akin (Mo.) – Running for the Senate.

Rodney Alexander (La.)

Justin Amash (Mich.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Steve Austria (Ohio)

Spencer Bachus (Ala.)

Lou Barletta (Pa.)

Roscoe Bartlett (Md.)

Joe Barton (Texas)

Charlie Bass (N.H.)

Dan Benishek (Mich.)

Rick Berg (N.D.)

Brian Bilbray (Calif.)

Gus Bilirakis (Fla.)

Rob Bishop (Utah)

Diane Black (Tenn.)

Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.)

Jo Bonner (Ala.)

Mary Bono Mack (Fla.)

Charles Boustany Jr. (La.)

Mo Brooks (Ala.)

Paul Broun (Ga.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Vern Buchanan (Fla.)

Larry Bucshon (Ind.)

Ann Marie Buerkle (N.Y.)

Michael Burgess (Texas)

Dan Burton (Ind.)

Ken Calvert (Calif.)

Dave Camp (Mich.)

John Campbell (Calif.)

Francisco “Quico” Canseco (Texas)

John Carter (Texas)

Bill Cassidy (La.)

Steve Chabot (Ohio)

Howard Coble (N.C.)

Mike Coffman (Colo.)

Mike Conaway (Texas)

Chip Cravaack (Minn.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Rick Crawford (Ark.)

Ander Crenshaw (Fla.)

John Culberson (Texas)

Geoff Davis (Ky.)

Jeff Denham (Calif.)

Scott DesJarlais (Tenn.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Mario Diaz-Balart (Fla.)

Bob Dold (Ill.)

David Dreier (Calif.)

Sean Duffy (Wis.)

Jeff Duncan (S.C.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

John Duncan Jr. (Tenn.)

Renee Ellmers (N.C.)

Blake Farenthold (Texas)

Stephen Fincher (Tenn.)

Mike Fitzpatrick (Pa.)

Jeff Flake (Ariz.)

Chuck Fleischmann (Tenn.)

John Fleming (La.)

Bill Flores (Texas)

Randy Forbes (Va.) – Put out statement noting his concern about defense spending

Jeff Fortenberry (Neb.)

Virginia Foxx (N.C.)

Trent Franks (Ariz.)

Rodney Frelinghuysen (N.J.)

Elton Gallegly (Calif.)

Cory Gardner (Colo.)

Scott Garrett (N.J.)

Jim Gerlach (Pa.)

Bob Gibbs (Ohio)

Chris Gibson (N.Y.)

Phil Gingrey (Ga.)

Louie Gohmert (Texas)

Bob Goodlatte (Va.)

Paul Gosar (Ariz.)

Trey Gowdy (S.C.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Kay Granger (Texas)

Sam Graves (Mo.)

Tim Griffin (Ark.)

Morgan Griffith (Va.)

Frank Guinta (N.H.)

Brett Guthrie (Ky.)

Ralph Hall (Texas)

Richard Hanna (N.Y.)

Gregg Harper (Miss.)

Andy Harris (Md.)

Vicki Hartzler (Mo.)

Doc Hastings (Wash.)

Nan Hayworth (N.Y.)

Joe Heck (Nev.)

Wally Herger (Calif.)

Jamie Herrera Beutler (Wash.)

Tim Huelskamp (Kan.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Bill Huizenga (Mich.)

Randy Hultgren (Ill.)

Duncan Hunter (Calif.)

Robert Hurt (Va.)

Darrell Issa (Calif.)

Lynn Jenkins (Kan.)

Timothy Johnson (Ill.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Bill Johnson (Ohio)

Sam Johnson (Texas)

Walter Jones (N.C.)

Steve King (Iowa) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Adam Kinzinger (Ill.)

John Kline (Minn.)

Raul Labrador (Idaho)

Doug Lamborn (Colo.)

Leonard Lance (N.J.)

Jeff Landry (La.)

Tom Latham (Iowa) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Steven LaTourette (Ohio)

Bob Latta (Ohio)

Jerry Lewis (Calif.)

Frank LoBiondo (N.J.)

Billy Long (Mo.)

Frank Lucas (Okla.)

Blaine Luetkemeyer (Mo.)

Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.)

Daniel Lungren (Calif.).

Kenny Marchant (Texas)

Tom Marino (Pa.)

Michael McCaul (Texas)

Tom McClintock (Calif.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Thaddeus McCotter (Mich.)

Patrick McHenry (N.C.)

Buck McKeon (Calif.)

David McKinley (W.Va.)

Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.)

Pat Meehan (Pa.)

John Mica (Fla.)

Jeff Miller (Fla.)

Candice Miller (Mich.)

Gary Miller (Calif.)

Mick Mulvaney (S.C.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Tim Murphy (Pa.)

Sue Myrick (N.C.)

Randy Neugebauer (Texas)

Kristi Noem (S.D.)

Rich Nugent (Fla.)

Devin Nunes (Calif.)

Alan Nunnelee (Miss.)

Pete Olson (Texas)

Steven Palazzo (Miss.)

Erik Paulsen (Minn.)

Steve Pearce (N.M.)

Mike Pence (Ind.)

Tom Petri (Wis.)

Joe Pitts (Pa.)

Todd Platts (Pa.)

Ted Poe (Texas)

Mike Pompeo (Kan.)

Bill Posey (Fla.)

Tom Price (Ga.)

Ben Quayle (Ariz.)

Tom Reed (N.Y.)

Denny Rehberg (Mont.)

Dave Reichert (Wash.)

Jim Renacci (Ohio)

Reid Ribble (Wis.) -- Undecided.

Scott Rigell (Va.)

David Rivera (Fla.)

Martha Roby (Ala.)

Phil Roe (Tenn.)

Hal Rogers (Ky.)

Mike Rogers (Mich.)

Mike Rogers (Ala.)

Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.)

Todd Rokita (Ind.)

Tom Rooney (Fla.)

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.)

Peter Roskam (Ill.)

Dennis Ross (Fla.)

Ed Royce (Calif.)

Jon Runyan (N.J.)

Steve Scalise (La.)

Bobby Schilling (Ill.)

Jean Schmidt (Ohio)

Aaron Schock (Ill.)

Tim Scott (S.C.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Austin Scott (Ga.)

James Sensenbrenner Jr. (Wis.)

Pete Sessions (Texas)

John Shimkus (Ill.)

Bill Shuster (Pa.)

Mike Simpson (Idaho)

Adrian Smith (Neb.)

Chris Smith (N.J.)

Lamar Smith (Texas)

Steve Southerland (Fla.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Cliff Stearns (Fla.)

Steve Stivers (Ohio)

Marlin Stutzman (Ind.)

John Sullivan (Okla.)

Lee Terry (Neb.)

Glenn Thompson (Pa.)

Mac Thornberry (Texas)

Patrick Tiberi (Ohio)

Scott Tipton (Colo.)

Michael Turner (Ohio) -- Undecided.

Fred Upton (Mich.)

Tim Walberg (Mich.)

Greg Walden (Ore.)

Daniel Webster (Fla.)

Lynn Westmoreland (Ga.)

Ed Whitfield (Ky.)

Joe Wilson (S.C.) – Voted no on Boehner bill.

Rob Wittman (Va.)

Frank Wolf (Va.)

Steve Womack (Ark.)

Rob Woodall (Va.)

Kevin Yoder (Kan.)

Don Young (Alaska)

Bill Young (Fla.)

Todd Young (Ind.)

  House Democrats

Gary Ackerman (N.Y.)

Jason Altmire (Pa.) - Undecided

Robert Andrews (N.J.)

Joe Baca (Calif.)

Tammy Baldwin (Wis.) – She is undecided. Possible Senate hopeful said earlier this month: “When a deal does come to the House floor, I will apply the following litmus test to see if it can gain my vote: 1.) Does the plan create jobs? 2.) Does it reduce the deficit? and 3.) Does it protect the middle class? If the answer to those questions is yes, I will support the measure.”

John Barrow (Ga.)

Karen Bass (Calif.)

Xavier Becerra (Calif.) – Member of Dem leadership.

Shelley Berkley (Nev.) – Undecided. Running for the Senate

Howard Berman (Calif.) – Facing tough reelection battle against Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.).

Timothy Bishop (N.Y)

Sanford Bishop Jr. (Ga.)

Earl Blumenauer (Ore.) -- Said on House floor it's not clear whether bill is better than default.

Dan Boren (Okla.) – Voted in favor of the "cut, cap and balance" measure. Boren not running for reelection.

Leonard Boswell (Iowa) – Will face Rep. Tom Latham (R-Iowa) in next year’s reelection.

Robert Brady (Pa.)

Bruce Braley (Iowa)

Corrine Brown (Fla.)

G.K. Butterfield (N.C.)

Lois Capps (Calif.)

Michael Capuano (Mass.)

Dennis Cardoza (Calif.)

Russ Carnahan (Mo.)

John Carney (Del.)

André Carson (Ind.)

Kathy Castor (Fla.)

Ben Chandler (Ky.)

Judy Chu (Calif.)

David Cicilline (R.I.)

Yvette Clarke (N.Y.)

Hansen Clarke (Mich.)

Lacy Clay (Mo.)

James Clyburn (S.C.) – Member of Democratic leadership

Steve Cohen (Tenn.)

Gerry Connolly (Va.)

John Conyers Jr. (Mich.)

Jim Cooper (Tenn.) – Voted in favor of the Cut, Cap and Balance Act.

Jim Costa (Calif.)

Jerry Costello (Ill.)

Joe Courtney (Conn.)

Mark Critz (Pa.)

Joseph Crowley (N.Y.)

Henry Cuellar (Texas) – Blue Dog and member of Dem leadership

Elijah Cummings (Md.)

Susan Davis (Calif.)

Danny Davis (Ill.)

Peter DeFazio (Ore.) – Said on the House floor there are "no jobs" in the package. Voted against stimulus and has not been shy in criticizing President Obama

Diana DeGette (Colo.)

Rosa DeLauro (Conn.)

Ted Deutch (Fla.) -- Undecided.

Norm Dicks (Wash.)

John Dingell (Mich.)

Lloyd Doggett (Texas)

Joe Donnelly (Ind.) – Running for the Senate.

Mike Doyle (Pa.) – On July 22, called for cuts in defense and lifting taxes on corporations and the wealthy.

Keith Ellison (Minn.)

Eliot Engel (N.Y.)

Anna Eshoo (Calif.)

Sam Farr (Calif.)

Chaka Fattah (Pa.)

Bob Filner (Calif.)

Barney Frank (Mass.)

Marcia Fudge (Ohio) -- Undecided.

John Garamendi (Calif.)

Gabrielle Giffords (Ariz.) – Recovering from gunshot wound; not expected to vote on this bill.

Charles Gonzalez (Texas) -- Undecided.

Al Green (Texas)

Gene Green (Texas)

Luis Gutierrez (Ill.)

Janice Hahn (Calif.)

Colleen Hanabusa (Hawaii) – May run for the Senate, contesting Rep. Mazie Hirono (Hawaii).

Alcee Hastings (Fla.)

Martin Heinrich (N.M.) – Running for the Senate.

Brian Higgins (N.Y.)

Jim Himes (Conn.)

Maurice Hinchey (N.Y.) – Missed votes last week; recovering from colon cancer surgery. It’s unclear if he will vote this week.

Ruben Hinojosa (Texas)

Mazie Hirono (Hawaii) – Running for the Senate.

Tim Holden (Pa.)

Rush Holt (N.J)

Mike Honda (Calif.)

Jay Inslee (Wash.)

Steve Israel (N.Y.)

Jesse Jackson Jr. (Ill.)

Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas)

Eddie Bernice Johnson (Texas)

Hank Johnson  (Ga.) – A whip in the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Marcy Kaptur (Ohio) – Known for speaking her mind and, at times, criticizing her party.

Bill Keating (Mass.)

Dale Kildee (Mich.)

Ron Kind (Wis.) – Might run for the Senate.

Larry Kissell (N.C.)

Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) – Ohio congressman was key late yes vote on healthcare reform.

Jim Langevin (R.I)

Rick Larsen (Wash.)

John Larson (Conn.) – Member of Democratic leadership who has been outspoken on need for revenue in debt deal.

Barbara Lee (Calif.)

Sandy Levin (Mich.) – Top Democrat on Ways and Means Committee is undecided.

John Lewis (Ga.)

Daniel Lipinski (Ill.)

David Loebsack (Iowa)

Zoe Lofgren (Calif.)

Nita Lowey (N.Y.)

Ben Ray Lujan (N.M.)

Stephen Lynch (Mass.)

Carolyn Maloney (N.Y.)

Edward Markey (Mass.)

Jim Matheson (Utah) – Voted in favor of "cut, cap and balance" measure.

Doris Matsui (Calif.)

Carolyn McCarthy (N.Y.)

Betty McCollum (Minn.)

Jim McDermott (Wash.)

James McGovern (Mass.)

Mike McIntyre (N.C.) – Voted in favor of "cut, cap and balance" measure.

Jerry McNerney (Calif.)

Gregory Meeks (N.Y.)

Michael Michaud (Maine) – Has ripped President Obama on trade issues.

Brad Miller (N.C.)

George Miller (Calif.) – Confidant of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

Gwen Moore (Wis.)

Jim Moran (Va.)

Chris Murphy (Conn.)

Grace Napolitano (Calif.) – Signed Congressional Progressive Caucus letter demanding no cuts to Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security. 

Richard Neal (Mass.)

John Olver (Mass.)

Bill Owens (N.Y.)

Frank Pallone Jr. (N.J.)

Bill Pascrell (N.J.)

Ed Pastor (Ariz.)

Donald Payne (N.J.)

Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) – House minority leader said on July 31: “I have to meet with my caucus [Aug. 1] to see how they wish to proceed. We all may not be able to support it, or none of us may be able to support it.”

Ed Perlmutter (Colo.)

Gary Peters (Mich.)

Collin Peterson (Minn.)

Chellie Pingree (Maine)

Jared Polis (Colo.)

David Price (N.C.)

Mike Quigley (Ill.)

Nick Rahall (W.Va.)

Charles Rangel (N.Y.) – Blasted Gang of Six deal.

Silvestre Reyes (Texas)

Laura Richardson (Calif.)

Cedric Richmond (La.)

Mike Ross (Ark.) – Blue Dog is not seeking reelection.

Steven Rothman (N.J.)

Lucille Roybal-Allard (Calif.)

Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.)

Bobby Rush (Ill.) – Defeated President Obama in 2000.

Tim Ryan (Ohio)

Loretta Sanchez (Calif.)

Linda Sanchez (Calif.)

John Sarbanes (Md.)

Jan Schakowsky (Ill.)

Adam Schiff (Calif.)

Kurt Schrader (Ore.)

Allyson Schwartz (Pa.)

Robert "Bobby" Scott (Va.) – Has not ruled out Senate run.

David Scott (Ga.)

José Serrano (N.Y.)

Terri Sewell (Ala.)

Brad Sherman (Calif.) – Will face Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) in 2012.

Heath Shuler (N.C.) – Voted in favor of "cut, ap and balance."

Albio Sires (N.J.)

Louise Slaughter (N.Y.) – Top Democrat on the Rules Committee.

Adam Smith (Wash.)

Jackie Speier (Calif.)

Pete Stark (Calif.)

Betty Sutton (Ohio)

Bennie Thompson (Miss.)

Mike Thompson (Calif.)

John Tierney (Mass.)

Paul Tonko (N.Y.) -- His office said he is reviewing it.

Edolphus Towns (N.Y.)

Niki Tsongas (Mass.)

Chris Van Hollen (Md.) – Top Democrat on the House Budget Committee.

Nydia Velazquez (N.Y.)

Pete Visclosky (Ind.)

Tim Walz (Minn.) -- Reviewing the details.

Maxine Waters (Calif.)

Melvin Watt (N.C.) -- Undecided.

Henry Waxman (Calif.) – During meeting earlier this summer, bluntly warned President Obama not to cave to Republicans.

Peter Welch (Vt.) – Undecided. Lawmaker says Republicans have won the policy battle on the debt limit. He led charge for “clean” debt-ceiling hike.

Frederica Wilson (Fla.)

Lynn Woolsey (Calif.) – Liberal member not seeking reelection.

David Wu (Ore.) This will be his last week in Congress amid allegations of sexual misconduct.

John Yarmuth (Ky.)

TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debtceiling; debtdeal; debtlimit

1 posted on 08/01/2011 9:41:50 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

If this passes as a rino/dem bill the tea party folks need to announce they’re starting their own party. Let’s see if boner would support nancy for speaker.

2 posted on 08/01/2011 9:52:30 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross

IMO, doing that would almost ensure a second Hussein term.

3 posted on 08/01/2011 10:06:35 AM PDT by camerongood210
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To: Qbert
Tom Price (Ga.) - will vote whichever way Speaker Boehner tells him to vote, regardless of the pleas of his constituents.

Price serves the GOP leadership. He does not serve his district.

4 posted on 08/01/2011 10:20:36 AM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: camerongood210
IMO, doing that would almost ensure a second Hussein term.

Maybe that's what this country needs, because apparently we haven't hit rock bottom, yet, or people would be screaming bloody murder about the sham that is going on in Washington.

5 posted on 08/01/2011 10:21:20 AM PDT by Turbo Pig ( close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Turbo Pig

You might be right, but I’m not sure this country could survive a second Hussein term.

6 posted on 08/01/2011 10:23:40 AM PDT by camerongood210
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To: camerongood210
"If this passes as a rino/dem bill the tea party folks need to announce they’re starting their own party. Let’s see if boner would support nancy for speaker." IMO, doing that would almost ensure a second Hussein term.

Look at how the Tea party folks have been treated. I can't blame them if they do leave & I will have to support them. This corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" does not represent most taxpayers & this debt/budget bill is a travesty. There's no place to go except 3rd party. We get Big Ears debt & tax increases with both factions.

7 posted on 08/01/2011 10:28:56 AM PDT by newfrpr04 (Don)
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To: camerongood210; All

I am not sure this country will survive his first term.

Time will tell.

8 posted on 08/01/2011 10:35:14 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

CrowleyTIME Michael Crowley
Rush Limbaugh “undecided” about merits of budget deal, suspicious of commission. But not railing against, apparently.…

9 posted on 08/01/2011 10:57:47 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Just called and left a message for my Rep Todd Akin R-MO. I asked which way he was leaning and was told that he is undecided. I replied, “Well this constituent would like him to vote no on the bill. I have to live within a budget, why can’t the government?”

10 posted on 08/01/2011 11:05:42 AM PDT by misharu (FB: I Stand with Sarah Palin)
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To: Qbert

Neither side is completely happy with it. But given the reality of a divided Washington, its the best that could be done at this time. Getting the budget cut won’t be easy, but we’ll do it. And unlike in Europe, Americans won’t riot over reduced government spending.

11 posted on 08/01/2011 11:06:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Neither side is completely happy with it. But given the reality of a divided Washington, its the best that could be done at this time. Getting the budget cut won’t be easy, but we’ll do it.

Having no agreement would have forced a balanced budget without the need for an Amendment. The feds bring in $150-$170 billion per month most of the time, more in January and April when tax payments are due. That pays the debt (about $30 billion) and a whole lot more - but not all of the crap. No compromise would have meant that cuts would have been mandatory...and the Republicans just signed off on the opposite. Yes, the markets wouldn't have liked it, but I don't think that the markets will like anything except continued stimulus. As it is, we've got a huge tax increase baked in to the budget pie starting 1/1/2013 (the Bush tax cuts which are going to expire unless the Congress agrees to extend them and Obama signs it the middle of an election campaign - which ain't happening). Unemployment will be higher, along with the deficit (not the least because a ratings downgrade will be priced into the bond market, even if S&P or Moody's doesn't do it officially). IOW, the markets will shortly be headed south, no matter what is done in DC.

Money bills start in the House, controlled by Republicans. They fell down on the jobs with this compromise.

12 posted on 08/01/2011 11:22:57 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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does anyone have a for agains vote count?

we also need numbers to call to stop this.

13 posted on 08/01/2011 11:29:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! and
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To: Qbert; All

does anyone have a for agains vote count?

we also need numbers to call to stop this.

14 posted on 08/01/2011 11:29:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! and
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