[Eyes Unclouded]

Just one for time for the folks who missed it:

"We were following the script from 2008. When the market collapsed after TARP failed, that spooked everyone enough to get them to fall in line. We thought the same thing would happen this week,"


Now I've been trying real hard to cut back on swearing on this forum I really really have. So I'm just going to go to the gym and come back and see if that helps.

[RC2]

Sounds to me that Wall Street and/or big business knows a lot more than Washington.

[BobL]

I’ve been wondering about this also.

The Republicans hold out...and life goes on. It makes it hard to sell panic decisions.

[johniegrad]

Some of these people need to be taken out. Who the hell do they think they are?

[Cowboy Bob]

"We were following the script from 2008. When the market collapsed after TARP failed, that spooked everyone enough to get them to fall in line. We thought the same thing would happen this week," he said.

Fool me once, shame on you...

[eddie willers]

Wall Street is waiting until November 2012.

If Obama gets re-elected, THEN you will see panic.

[Poison Pill]

Washington, D.C. expected that this would be a week marked by panic in the markets. Stocks would tank. Bonds would get clobbered. The dollar would do something dramatic. And all of this would help convince reluctant lawmakers that they had to reach a compromise on the debt ceiling.

Why should they panic? They know the debt service will get paid and a gov shut down would have little down side for private business.

[Cheerio]

So it was just a game all along - Obozo wanted to get this past his reelection campaign.

[spyone]

Carney writes interesting stuff, in the otherwise weak lineup at CNBC.

[forgotten man]

The collective wisdom of the market is a lot smarter than Washington D.C. I am keeping my money in the stock market. I think a credit downgrade is already baked in the cake.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

PING!

[dools0007world]

Now let me try to understand this. Wall Street sees the Tea Party Conservatives and GOP Pubbies trying to fix Americas economic house and the Marxists expect it to tank.

Uh oh, the Mad Hatter just rushed by desk announcing he was late—again.

I’m 67 years old and broke my tooth the other day. I put the piece under my pillow, but the Tooth Fairy left me no money. Were my expectations unrealistic?

[Blood of Tyrants]

Without the constant calls from their constituents, the GOP would have already stampeded to ANY plan in fright, probably right over a cliff. Fear is a great motivator, but it is a terrible decision maker.

[dools0007world]

I think I know why I find Boehner so repulsive. It’s way past time to be laughing at the inanities eminating from Marxist demrat mouths. Instead, we have prune face Boehner treating them like they are credible opponents.

[I still care]

The reason nothing is happening is DC is way out of the loop.

They think America must be heading towards a slow recovery, albeit held back a bit by regressive republicans who don’t want to spend money.

But the average American knows we are in a depression/recession, and heading no where good. And has known this for a while. So they are already in their “fall back” positions.

We’ve already pruned our stocks. We’ve already purchased our gold, our silver, our other commodities. We aren’t going to open businesses until a more business friendly administration gets in office. We aren’t going to hire any more employees until Obamacare is destroyed or at least castrated.

The DC types have been artifically insulated from what is going on out in the producing areas. They have no idea of the anger building for them.

[eggman]

This was the Obama plan and why there was never a bill or even an outline of a bill presented. They wanted a full blown panic so they could push through something that wouldn't pass any other way. Political arm twisting and bargaining isn't enough. They want a crisis.

[Polybius]

"Frankly, a bit of panic would be very helpful right now," he said. As he explained it, lots of people in Washington, D.C. expected that this would be a week marked by panic in the markets. Stocks would tank. Bonds would get clobbered. The dollar would do something dramatic. And all of this would help convince reluctant lawmakers that they had to reach a compromise on the debt ceiling.

Rick Perry downplays default fears, calling debate ‘political theater’

[meyer]

Looks like the markets are calling Obambi’s bluff...

[Leroy S. Mort]

Others think the market doesn't understand politics.

Occam's Razor would say politics doesn't understand the market.

[mrsmith]

“We can look at the prices of put options on government bond ETFs to see whether the put options are expensive, which would suggest that the options market is suggesting a substantial risk of a sell-off in government bonds and rising yields... the options prices do not suggest that the demand for ‘insurance’ against a big sell-off in government bonds is high at all. “
http://www.businessinsider.com/government-default-the-market-vs-the-media-2011-7

“What does a downgrade really mean? Treasury debt will still be the highest-quality, most liquid market in the world debt,” said Robert Williams, director of research at Sage Advisory Services in Austin, Texas. “We don’t think it has a major impact on rates, even if there is a downgrade.”
http://blogs.investors.com/capitalhill/index.php/home/35-politicsinvesting/2707-treasury-etfs-fly-despite-likely-us-debt-downgrade?src=HPLNews