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To: lonevoice; silentknight; FR_addict

Boehner is in no way the same as Reid, Pelosi and Obama. It is delusional to think so. Your hero Rush does not believe that, because he lives in literalville. It isn’t true.

John knows the military should get paid, that there’s no excuse for not paying them, but he also knows that Obama can choose not to pay them. Instead of saying that, he put it in the framework of trying to resolve the issues so it won’t come to that.

You chose to believe that he deliberately lied and wanted to alarm and hurt our military. No, that’s Obama, Reid and Pelosi. It isn’t Boehner, and even your hero Rush knows it isn’t.

It’s clear to me that he held back on saying, well, if you military don’t get paid, it’s Obama doing it to you. Because you should get paid, there’s no reason for you not to be. I don’t think he wants to go there rhetorically, but would rather try to get somewhere so that Obama doesn’t do that to our troops. What a horrible conundrum...having to accuse the CIC of deliberately not paying his troops.

I think Boehner will go there only if he has no choice, and that would be if nothing is resolved and the money has to be prioritized and Obama chooses to do something else with the money before paying the troops.

Once Obama actually pulls that, the bets are off on rhetoric...


176 posted on 07/30/2011 5:56:52 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

9:31pm | Democrats are accusing Republican Senators of a filibuster.

Harry Reid has repeatedly requested unanimous consent to vote on his bill, but Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has demanded that vote require 60 votes. Reid calls this a filibuster, because Democrats want a straight majority vote on the bill.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/live-coverage-congressional-debt-ceiling-showdown-2011-7#ixzz1Tduep8TJ


177 posted on 07/30/2011 6:54:22 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: txrangerette

9:28pm | The next big deadline is midnight.

If a deal is not reached by midnight tonight, the Senate will be unable to act to raise the debt limit by August 2nd without unanimous consent — a tall order.

The 1 am vote is not on the Reid bill — but to end debate on the Reid bill. The final vote would be on Monday morning if the cloture vote passes.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/live-coverage-congressional-debt-ceiling-showdown-2011-7#ixzz1TdujxpUk


178 posted on 07/30/2011 6:54:50 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: txrangerette
Boehner never helped get this bill passed.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:H.R.1297:

H.R.1297
Latest Title: Ensuring Pay for Our Military Act of 2011

It looks like it stalled in committee. Now, he goes on television and says the military pay is in jeopardy. If it needed changes, there had been plenty of time to get those changes in the bill, since it was introduced on 3/31/2011.

193 posted on 07/30/2011 7:39:18 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: txrangerette
It is delusional to think so. Your hero Rush does not believe that...It isn’t Boehner, and even your hero Rush knows it isn’t.

I have one hero, my Lord and Savior.

Delusional is a clinical condition which I highly doubt you’re medically qualified to diagnose.

You have newly met someone with whom you might agree on many issues. When a difference of opinion arises, your opening gambit is sneering condescension. Perhaps such powerful skills of persuasion impress someone, but not me. You're welcome to try it elsewhere.

213 posted on 07/31/2011 9:24:50 AM PDT by lonevoice (Bitter gun clinging schizoprenic hostage taking hobbit)
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