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Another 'deal' by the worthless anti-president who is being very successful in his first term of accomplishing his mission: destruction of America! He's truly a man of many talents: now he's an automotive engineer.

What clueless, sycophantic fools support him in his mission!

1 posted on 07/30/2011 6:10:17 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Well, the article says that they’ll sign anything 15 years away...actually, they could have agreed that their cars would get 1500 miles per gallon on cat urine, because, God willing, this agreement will be ripped up in 2013.


2 posted on 07/30/2011 6:20:29 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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I didn’t know Congress passed such a law. I mean, it must have, right? It says right there in Article I Section 1 that Congress has all legislative powers therein granted.


3 posted on 07/30/2011 6:20:54 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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In any event, lawmakers did not think

That about covers it!

5 posted on 07/30/2011 6:38:34 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: IbJensen
In hindsight, if the pols of past had the foresight to prop up the railroad infrastructure and not put all of the freight on the highways we could save more fuel than any CAFE standard. The cabal of the teamsters and govt in the late 50s and 60s that used "national defense" as an excuse to build the Interstate system destroyed the American railway systems. Now it costs as much or more to travel by rail as it does to fly. Does any of this make sense?

But now we have some wonderful jogging trails!!

BTW what existing or conceivable vehicle that gets 54.5 MPG would anyone buy for more than short commutes? Oh that's right we need to be herded into urban areas so we can utilized the wonderful mass transit systems that exist in say; Orlando, Tampa, Toledo?

7 posted on 07/30/2011 6:46:09 AM PDT by Cannoneer ("All things are possible if you don't know what you're talking about.")
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PS: I just realized how they will achieve the new CAFE standards. As the country is going downhill now......


8 posted on 07/30/2011 6:49:04 AM PDT by Cannoneer ("All things are possible if you don't know what you're talking about.")
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Instead of fossil fuels why don't we strap large animals to wheeled carts and have them pull us around? Has this ever been tried before?


11 posted on 07/30/2011 6:59:56 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Americans will save about a zillion dollars just getting his sorry asa voted out of office.


12 posted on 07/30/2011 7:00:03 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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Why stop at 54.5 mpg?? Why not mandate 154.5 mpg??

“In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made politicians.” - - - Mark Twain

13 posted on 07/30/2011 7:00:14 AM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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I think one of the problems Obama and the Democrats have with America is that white families are still having way too many kids.

But if you force them to drive 2-seaters, that problem goes away.


15 posted on 07/30/2011 7:04:20 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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This is all about driving the cost of private vehicles up and forcing the mass of people into public transportation. Private vehicles will be the province of the elite and pretty soon they’ll have their own private driving lanes, just like Moscow used to be.


19 posted on 07/30/2011 7:10:20 AM PDT by Bayan
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It gives the village idiot something to convince his deluded followers that we don’t need to drill here now. After all we’re looking at 50+ mpg for automobiles and pickup trucks.

If the EPA was corraled and we were allowed to import more of the diesels from Europe we could get close to 50 mpg now.


23 posted on 07/30/2011 7:41:32 AM PDT by meatloaf
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what arrogance.

who can predict what technologies and life will be like that far in the future?


24 posted on 07/30/2011 8:00:21 AM PDT by ken21 (dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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They more or less have to sign whatever President Zippy demands. But they know by 2025 it won’t matter what they signed in 2011.

In 2025 either Zippy will be gone or the US will be gone.

And no matter what Zippy demands, what can actually be produced will be still be dictated by the immutable natural laws of mechanics, physics and thermodynamics, not by Zippy’s socialist night dreams.


29 posted on 07/30/2011 8:09:02 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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Good lesson!

Free trade does not move manufacturing overseas....regulations move manufacturing overseas.

Right now, it is feasible to build cars in the US and sell them for a profit.....despite unions.

Now that the gov’t is requiring increased technology to achieve higher fuel economy, companies will have trouble selling as many cars because they will cost more. Consumers will keep their old cars longer.

So what will happen?

All those joint auto ventures in China will be used to ship cars back to the US!

Yes, this is how it works.....eat away at profits or make domestic companies sell fewer vehicles and they will look to recover those profits in other ways. Since they cannot get the UAW to lower wages or introduce more automation, they will turn to other countries.


30 posted on 07/30/2011 8:10:31 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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Obama and his band of faggy apparatchiks never worked in a real job making things. (I have) They have no idea what it takes to do this and run this kind of business. Nuke the EPA. Fire every last blood sucking leech.

Those who can’t do, govern. Or at least seek to. These useless eaters seek to rule the producers of America. They oppress our oil, gas and energy producers. They oppress our farmers in California by denying irrigation water. They drive our manufacturing overseas via OSHA and EPA regulations

Rick Perry is conservative enough to reverse all this. I don’t need an unelectable super-conservative. Just one who will drive Bammy Boy and Moochelle out of the White House. Who will boot commissar Lisa Jackson out of the EPA


31 posted on 07/30/2011 8:27:39 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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yeah... but it's hard to get two people into it let alone a family of four

32 posted on 07/30/2011 8:37:23 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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33 posted on 07/30/2011 8:38:07 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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