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Allen West slams tea party "schizophrenia"
Youtube ^ | 7/29/11 | Laura Ingraham

Posted on 07/29/2011 9:09:32 AM PDT by Outraged At FLA

Basically goes on to call the tea party opposition schizophrenia.. Him and Laura bash the tea party.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allenwest; gowest; sanity; teaparty; west; westtraitor
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To: fortheDeclaration

I think you are all missing the point. The economics of the US and the world have become so complex with so much being hidden that no one knows what to do about fixing it. Bullet points and essays are fine but are like trying to diagnose a sick person by examining in detail one toenail. In such situations, collapse is inevitable. West, et al, are of course confused. Who isn’t? We are now at the point of a collapse coming with no idea what comes next. The collapse might be this year; it might come in 2041. That’s just a detail.


261 posted on 07/29/2011 1:36:05 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: Outraged At FLA
No, he is a RINO, or basically just another opportunist politician. That does not make him a socialist, just the enemy.

Apparently people in Boonville, NY don't have the slightest clue what strategy is required for politics. It's a chess game.....and we're playing as we speak. I will also say, by the hysterics from you and others on this thread.....the dems are winning.

262 posted on 07/29/2011 1:36:47 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Good, we will see who on our side and who isn’t.


263 posted on 07/29/2011 1:36:57 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: ScreamingFist
What did he hope to accomplish by joining the black caucus?

He shouldn't be associating with evil people.

264 posted on 07/29/2011 1:38:48 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration

ON principle, I wish I could fly. However, I know that in reality, I cannot. That’s why, on principle, I don’t jump off the cliff hoping that this time I’ll actually be able to fly.

Principles are what guide your decision-making. They aren’t a replacement for decision-making. On principle, I drive on the correct side of the road. If someone swerves into my lane, I could stand on principle and crash. But I choose to violate my principles and swerve out of the lane. SOme here would argue that this makes me a hypocrit, I say it makes me a human being with God-given ability to reason.

I’ve seen children who have strong principles. They know exactly what they want, and will throw a temper tantrum to get it. What they lack is the ability to temper those principles to reality.

Put a roomful of people who live by principle together, and nothing happens, because none will budge one iota to reach consensus. Consensus is an evil word made up by people who actually want to get things done, rather than wanting to be able to blame others when things go wrong.


265 posted on 07/29/2011 1:40:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Elendur

Urkel, by Law, must pay the interest on the debt and redeem any expiring bills, bonds or notes. He does not need to come to Congress for authority to do so and has already been directed by past Congresses to do just that.

So far the GOP has weakened Urkel by its stance and I support that. There is no real agreement on much even within the GOP beyond generalities. How much is a “real” cut? Is a BBA non-negotiable?

Honorable men can have differing opinions on such questions.
And no one is going to convince me that either Sowell or West are anything but honorable men or that they are abject fools, craven cowards or crooks.

There is way too much of a tendency here to turn on even heroes and treat them like they are actual RATs.


266 posted on 07/29/2011 1:40:34 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: pabianice
No, complexity is not an excuse.

This is very simple, we cannot continue to go into debt.

The Teaparty represents the Middle Class, who are being crushed by this debt.

The Democrats represent the welfare class, the GOP, the financial elites, who represents the taxpayers?

The TeaParty must resist every attempt to raise the debt ceiling.

Let them pass it without them and we will see the GOP again in Nov.

267 posted on 07/29/2011 1:42:56 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration
What did he hope to accomplish by joining the black caucus?

He wanted to see if a socialist, black only club would let a conservative, black military man join. They had no choice......it was great.

268 posted on 07/29/2011 1:43:58 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“You are pretty arrogant and dismissive for someone who doesn’t really sound like he knows what he’s talking about.”

Have you read what you have written? Not too hard to be dismissive..

A. Do you REALLY believe the Senate can gain cloture on a Reid bill? Really?

B. So then you believe REALLY believe that beyond that, Boner is going to go against the majority of his party (the ones that vote for his speakership) and pass a Reid bill? REALLY?

Seriously, get a clue.


269 posted on 07/29/2011 1:45:59 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Principles are what guide your decision-making. They aren’t a replacement for decision-making. On principle, I drive on the correct side of the road. If someone swerves into my lane, I could stand on principle and crash. But I choose to violate my principles and swerve out of the lane. SOme here would argue that this makes me a hypocrit, I say it makes me a human being with God-given ability to reason.

Extremely well said.

270 posted on 07/29/2011 1:46:23 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist
We are always told about the politics of the issue and consider the next election.

We did not win the House to wait for the next election.

Why is Obamacare still being funded?

We see how hard the GOP fought in Wis.

The GOP in Congress needs to do the same.

If the American People want to destroy itself with debt, they can vote the Democrats back in, but at least we tried to do the right thing.

We need to fight the battles in front of us, not wait for the next one.

271 posted on 07/29/2011 1:46:31 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If you drove on the wrong side of the road on principle, you were following the wrong principle and swerving was a needed correction.

Clearly, by your examples of children, you have no idea what it means to operate on principle.

You are confusing stubbornness with acting on Principle.

272 posted on 07/29/2011 1:49:37 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: ScreamingFist

What do you know about strategy? Oh I see, join the other side.. Great strategy loser..


273 posted on 07/29/2011 1:49:37 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: ScreamingFist

“what strategy is required for politics”

That’s the problem, you are playing politics, we are trying to save your ass..


274 posted on 07/29/2011 1:50:49 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: ScreamingFist
Actually, it was poorly said.

Acting on principle (and I am assuming the correct principle) means acting on truth, and you don't compromise the truth.

People without principle can always find excuses to compromise.

275 posted on 07/29/2011 1:51:55 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Outraged At FLA
What do you know about strategy? Oh I see, join the other side.. Great strategy loser..

I know enough to not use a latin phrase in my bio that leads to my hometown......;)

276 posted on 07/29/2011 1:54:59 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist
Why was it great-it gave them creditability!
277 posted on 07/29/2011 1:55:13 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

--Thomas Jefferson


278 posted on 07/29/2011 1:55:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For decades they've kicked the can down the road. Sorry, but there's no more road.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You really don't understand what principle means!

It has nothing to do with what one wishes, it has to do with what is right!

A principle is a truth that guides your decisions, not something you surrender because of expediency.

279 posted on 07/29/2011 1:58:20 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: ScreamingFist

Who cares? You think I worry about people knowing where I live? I am proud of where I live. I don’t hide like your ilk..


280 posted on 07/29/2011 1:59:05 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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