[CharlesWayneCT]

If the republicans can’t pass the Boehner plan, there are enough soft republicans in the house that they will be able to pass whatever the senate sends over, with the democrats.

That is the likely outcome if conservatives stand strong against the Boehner plan — a Reid plan that “saves the day”, passed by democrats in the house, and signed by the democrat president, with 30 liberal republicans in the house.

And the conservatives will scream, the democrats will “get the credit” or “take the blame” depending on your point of view.

This is the natural outcome of the position of the republican study group in the house. It’s not a surprise, and all I can say is that I certainly don’t understand what the end game is for conservatives by this plan. Well, I know that for 24 or so conservatives, they get to brag that they held their principles. FOr the conservative movement, maybe we lose the chance to take the senate, and Obama gets re-elected.

And we don’t get as many cuts as under Boehner, we don’t get to vote again on debt next year, and we dont’ get credit for fixing the problem. We don’t repeal Obamacare, and we get two more liberal judges on the supreme court.

Maybe that is a good result for purity. I wish someone would explain to me how 30 more years of legal abortion, increased taxes, higher spending, and a democratic senate and presidency, is actually good for conservatives.

[Cementjungle]

Maybe that is a good result for purity. I wish someone would explain to me how 30 more years of

This country won't exist in 30 months if Obama keeps getting his way... money doesn't grow on trees.

[Huck]

Not to get off topic, but Roe v Wade is here to stay.

[grey_whiskers]

The economy is about to implode.

So is Europe.

So is China.

I'd rather the Dems get the blame.

Remember the overall polling data for Cut, Cap & Balance.

Cheers!

[ArmstedFragg]

You’re on the money tonight.

[WatchOutForSnakes]

Excellent post. That is exactly what is going to happen. And then we won’t have the chance to make real changes.

[MrChips]

You’re right. Welcome to Amerika.

[Principled]

This is how I feel. I’m getting flamed.

Anyway, I agree with your assessment. But I do hold hope for a better bill that can be passed. I’d kind of like to take advantage of our momentum next fall.

[Mike Darancette]

If the republicans can’t pass the Boehner plan...

Then the only thing the Senate can vote on is the CCB bill. The Senate can't "send over" (initiate) this type of bill.

I still want to see Boehner's bill pass because it tightens the screws on Obama and Reid.