Posted on 07/27/2011 3:19:03 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy
people will flame me but i agree with you....if they try and cut $1tillion over the next two years it never passes and they look unreasonable....
this is a reasonable plan and ayatollah obama will NEVER sign it- hence the hammer falls on his head- constantly if the GOP constantly hammers him...
Even the "draconian" Ryan plan would not have been nearly enough.
“I wash my hands of them.”
Me too. Boehner has mismanaged this whole thing from the get go. By pushing this alternative, he undercut the more viable CCB. Then after the CBO revealed the shortcomings of his own plan, he lashes out at the Tea Party. I’m done with him and McConnel.
If this ain't a WTF moment, I don't know what is.
Why would you want to remove him? This moves RIGHTWARD, and does so in a way that he can talk about how he’s willing to compromise.
NEVER EVER FORGET that the winner of this battle is whoever polls strongest by pollsters, and to do that he has to swing the independents. If the polls go heavily against Boehner, we’d be going against THE PEOPLE.
So optimal strategy is to do what he’s doing. THESE ARE NOW LEGIT CUTS. He’s taking a significant chunk off FY2012. It’s 10X more than he took of FY2011. This big a chunk of FY2012 is going to smash GDP next year and increase unemployment, and that’s the price of cuts. This took courage to do, and it’s a winning strategy for One Particular Reason:
He’s right: When things get chaotic and we have this concrete, properly computed plan on the table, the Senate will fold. They have too many Dem Senators fearful of Tea Party backlash. They will cave.
And then Obama would be faced with a bill both houses passed.
This is a pretty good FIRST TRANCHE. (The second comes in Feb with even more cuts). It’s not “as good as we can get”. It’s good. It’s not perfect. Nothing ever is or ever will be. But this is flat out good.
$22 billion.....$22 BILLION?! WE’RE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE HOLE, AND THAT’S THE BEST THE WEEPER CAN DO?!?!?!? OBAMA SPENDS $22 BILLION BEFORE HE GRABS HIS GOLF BAG IN THE MORNING!
Sorry. I tend to get angry when I watch my country slide into the Third World.
All he had to do was dump it in the lap of the Senate and walk out.
He would have got it and even if he didn't just letting the country default would have given us the cuts we needed by doing nothing!!
It must be in the political gene's that makes them grab defeat out of the hands of victory time and time again.
Somebody kick that tanned ass out of congress and get a real man to take his position.
"This is substantial improvement...Now the buzz word required to fight the battle in the polls is how Boehner has COMPROMISED with Democrats..."
This plan does very little to address the long-term debt problem, and (if passed into law) when our AAA credit rating gets downgraded in short order, the administration and the MSM will be clear to place all of the blame upon the "faulty Boehner bill"...
2012
$22 B in year one? Disappointing. Of course, Hussein wants none.
I increasingly believe what Rush said several times today: we have to win more elections. If we had a few more Senators and Representatives, we could override Hussein’s veto.
” Fine - cut $1 trillion in spending in the next 12 months”
Otherwise, no deal!
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This plan does very little to address the long-term debt problem, and (if passed into law) when our AAA credit rating gets downgraded in short order, the administration and the MSM will be clear to place all of the blame upon the “faulty Boehner bill”...
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No. That’s the beauty of the design. It is in two tranches. Obama and the Democrats don’t have to sign onto it just once. They sign on twice. They will have their fingerprints on it.
Blame can’t work.
Well, if this is the best we can get, do it and then get rid of Boehner!
Greetings FReepers:
Called my freshman Congressman, Bill Johnson (R-OH). Office reports Johnson will do the will of his District; as opposed to the will of the Washington establishment. Johnson settles for nothing less than the Cap, Cut, and Balance bill he co-sponsored.
Thank you for doing the right thing, Representative Johnson.
Cheers,
OLA
“So the time has now come to talk about how gentle and gradual these cuts are and how they are THE ONLY REAL COMPROMISE.”
With all due and sincere respect, we are at the edge of the insolvency cliff. The real debt far exceeds $14T, and is likely closer to $80T. Boehner’s plan is like re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I find it difficult to accept the idea of a compromise when dealing with matters of national insolvency.
Shhh...don’t bring sanity to the debate!
Give me a trillion dollars today for which I will gladly return in ten years. Maybe.
When, in heaven’s name, will our conservative representatives in D.C. pull the curtain away from this whole ‘baseline budgeting’ scam. Increased annual spending is assumed and extrapolated from the existing baseline as part of the ‘current baseline services projection’ covering a ten year period. Therefore any proposed reduction of future spending is against this already assumed spending increase. The result is spending always goes up, any cuts are phantom only, and the Democrats can scream bloody murder about draconic cuts to a public totally unaware of this budgeting fraud that would send folks in the private sector to jail.
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