Posted on 07/27/2011 12:35:22 PM PDT by Qbert
After aggressively whipping votes, the office of House minority whip Steny Hoyer now believes that not a single Democrat will vote for John Boehner’s debt ceiling plan, delivering a blow to GOP hopes for getting it through the House, a top Democratic aide tells me.
“Hoyer has been whipping against the Boehner bill very hard,” says the aide, who is close to Hoyer’s whipping operation. “No Democrats will vote for it.”
If this bears out — and it’s important to emphasize that nothing is ever certain in the alternate universe otherwise known as the United States Congress — it could be a very big deal. It means that House Republicans need all Republican votes to pass the Boehner plan, which would hike the debt ceiling in stages, and significantly reduces the margin of error House GOP vote counters have at their disposal.
Each Dem vote for the plan means GOP leaders need one less House conservative to support it, and if Dems unanimously vote against the proposal, House Republicans can only afford to lose roughly two dozen GOPers in order to pass it. The latest public whip count has it that some 20 House GOPers are either firm No votes or are leaning in the direction of No, though the private count could be somewhat different, and it’s also important to remember that things could change once GOP leaders release the new version of their proposal in response to the CBO score finding less-than-desired savings.
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UPDATE: At a preser today, Harry Reid also vowed that no Senate Dems would vote for the Boehner plan, claiming:
Every Democratic senator will vote against it. Nobody believes the Boehner plan is anything more than a big wet kiss for the right wing
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Aren’t ALL of the House ‘rats Zer0 ‘rats?
Great - tell them CC&B is the plan. Take it or Leave it. Adjourn the house and stay out till the dims give the bill an up or down vote...red
Sounds like the Dems are taking Reid’s “must compromise” mantra to heart...
In other news, the sun will rise in the east tomorrow; and Helen Thomas is butt-ugly.
Exterminate the ‘Rats and save the Republic.
Reid is full of ____t. He’s got his marching orders from some cigar smoked room in the basement of some Chicago speak easy. The Dow is down again over 1% but he doesn’t show any concern over that. Let Aug.2 come and go unless the senate and the empty suit agree with the Republican demands( no tax increase.)
They won’t vote for it, even if they agree with it, because it’s a Republican plan. Has the Democrat plan gone to print yet or is it like Obama’s...........all words in speeches.
“Great - tell them CC&B is the plan. Take it or Leave it. Adjourn the house and stay out till the dims give the bill an up or down vote...”
Yep, and they’ll have our full support if they do. Millions of Americans burning down the phone lines to pressure a tiny handful of so-called moderate Dems to get on board.
Otherwise, they’re on their own...
Pretty odd that there might be significant number of republicans who would participate with the entire body of democrats in the House; it is odd for a republican to vote with the opposition party on a vote that is set up as a party-line vote.
Conservative Republicans in the House won’t vote for it.
Democrats in the Senate won’t vote for it.
The President has already said he’s going to veto it.
*shrug*
can't we all just get along
Hoyer has his marching orders from Zero. If the dems can peel off enough Republicans to defeat Boehner’s bill, it’s a double win. He weakens Boehner while at the same time effectively vetoes a bill he said he would veto without actually having to veto it.
Good. Maybe Cave-In Boner will get the message and not bring this to vote. The House has passed legislation. Adjourn until Zero and the lapdog Reid present their plan.
Now's the time for some REAL compromise where Harry Reid, Pelosi, and Hoyer agree to some real long-term spending reductions so we don't have a collapse of the treasury bond market and another economic crisis at some time in the next two years. The House Republicans are willing to compromise by accepting much smaller near-term spending reductions than they want, but congressional democrats need to compromise too by accepting larger long-term spending reductions that they want.
“Adjourn the house and stay out till the dims give the bill an up or down vote...red”
Why adjourn the House? It’s not like the Dems are going to come up with a plan.
This is, in a asense a good thing. It clouds the conflict in the GOP ranks over this and turns the onus of failing to accept a budget plan onto the Democrats.
It might be the best possible outcome here.
Now the GOP should sit back and wait for the Rats to make their move and their offer.
Above all else, the GOP needs to keep its eye on 2012 and the prize at stake.
The consequences for America should this monster be re-elected are probably irrevokable. SCOTUS will become a rubber stamp for his Marxist dreams.
Now’s the time for some REAL compromise where Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and Hoyer agree to some real long-term spending reductions so we don’t have a collapse of the treasury bond market and another economic crisis at some time in the next two years. The House Republicans are willing to compromise by accepting much smaller near-term spending reductions than they want, and congressional democrats need to compromise too by accepting larger REAL long-term spending reductions than they want.
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