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SAHA (San Antonio Housing Authority) to ban smoking in public housing
San Antonio Express News ^ | 07/27/2011 | Karisa King

Posted on 07/27/2011 6:54:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Grunthor
Personally I think we need to come up with more demands on the poor. Those who choose to be dependent, deserve to be treated like dependents.

"I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer."

-Ben Franklin
21 posted on 07/27/2011 7:12:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Envisioning

i agree with you, smoking bans are usually ridiculous.
this one, though, i’m fine with. if these people can afford to smoke, why can’t they afford to get off public assistance?


22 posted on 07/27/2011 7:12:16 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Some how I can’t get too worked up over the freedoms of those receiving public housing. Particularly, considering the cost of tobacco taxes. (a 2 pack a day smoker is paying almost six dollars a day or 180 a month in taxes) We are subsidizing their housing, they are paying taxes back to the Gov’t in Tobacco Tax and the only beneficiary is the gov’t which gets their votes for keeping them in public housing.

To paraphrase Ben Franklin: “Never let the poor be comfortable in their condition or they will never be motivated to change it.”


23 posted on 07/27/2011 7:13:04 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: absolootezer0

Just some quick math will show you that a smoking habit costs $300 per month.


24 posted on 07/27/2011 7:14:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Exactly. See post 21


25 posted on 07/27/2011 7:15:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Just convert the cone of silence to the 'cone of smokers':


26 posted on 07/27/2011 7:15:25 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Cries of “RACISM!” (sponsored by Newport) coming in 3....2...1....


27 posted on 07/27/2011 7:15:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ll start the popcorn


28 posted on 07/27/2011 7:16:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Steamburg
I'm so glad you said that, I almost did not post this because I thought I'd be flamed:

As a smoker and taxpayer, I must say, that if I cannot smoke in or near the buildings I help pay for (courthouses, dmv, etc.), then by golly, no one should smoke in a building I help pay for.

Additionally, I am assuming most of these folks are on welfare and I resent helping them pay almost 10 bucks a pack, so they can sit home and smoke all day.

29 posted on 07/27/2011 7:16:53 AM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: MrB

Yes but it is also a good method of getting tax money from the poor.


30 posted on 07/27/2011 7:17:38 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: 1rudeboy

This is just like county jails that’ve banned smoking.


31 posted on 07/27/2011 7:21:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m not at all certain we want this particular crowd to think there’s no difference ~ else they’ll be using crime to finance jail time vacations or something ~ just to, like, you know, GET AWAY FROM IT ALL.


32 posted on 07/27/2011 7:22:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Responsibility2nd

What everyone fails to notice is these people have a pack per day (at least) habit and live in public housing. I’m not a smoker but a pack per day is roughly $150/month. How can they afford this while I am paying for their housing? That’s the real outrage.


33 posted on 07/27/2011 7:26:53 AM PDT by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Responsibility2nd

wait until they ban french fries!


34 posted on 07/27/2011 7:27:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Mom MD
What everyone fails to notice is these people have a pack per day (at least) habit and live in public housing.

I suppose you could say the same thing about Obama.

35 posted on 07/27/2011 7:28:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

If you are a smoker the solution is simple. Move out of public housing. They seem to lack money for rent, but do have money for tobacco, booze, drugs, gold teeth, fancy rims and tattoos. Go figure. They get no sympathy from me.


36 posted on 07/27/2011 7:30:43 AM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: Responsibility2nd

Mixed opinion on this one.

On one hand of course is the huge issue that we are paying for these people to have a roof over their heads, food on their tables, healthcare, daycare, etc etc. Cigarettes have become so incredibly expensive I have to question how anyone on welfare can afford to smoke but can’t afford to support themselves.

With that said, I have a huge issue with the government telling people what legal activities they can or can not engage in in the privacy of their own homes. Those who do not see a slippery slope only need to consider legislation that has been passed for years that have allowed the government to intrude into our homes, into our lives, the Constitution be damned, all for the current cause of the day.

Legislation has been proposed to outlaw smoking in cars when minors are present or even if minor children will at some point ride in that vehicle.

Legislation has been proposed that would outlaw smoking completely in multi-unit housing even in cases where the units are privately owned.

Give a politician a cause and more often than not they will propose a law that will infringe on our rights.

Once the camel gets a nose under the tent it’s impossible to stop him from fully entering.

Consider this before cheering on another way the government can go into peoples homes and regulate activity; you may hate smoking, but guaranteed one day there will be a law making something you enjoy illegal, if it hasn’t happened already.


37 posted on 07/27/2011 7:33:50 AM PDT by Brytani (Liberals - destroying America since 1776)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They will smoke anyway and nobody will be able to do anything about it.

They have nowhere to go and they are supposedly poor. They aren’t going to kick them out on the street.


38 posted on 07/27/2011 7:33:58 AM PDT by dforest
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To: MrB
Just some quick math will show you that a smoking habit costs $300 per month.

trying to get me to quit?
39 posted on 07/27/2011 7:34:27 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: absolootezer0

Nope, as long as you’re paying for it (and everything else in your life), it’s your own decision.


40 posted on 07/27/2011 7:37:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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