Posted on 07/26/2011 4:26:42 PM PDT by mdittmar
The House and Senate debt proposals released Monday do not contain specific provisions targeting federal employees' pay or benefits, although such spending cuts likely will be part of future proposals, observers believe.
The plans, released by House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., both endorse trillions in spending cuts that would affect agency budgets, including Defense Department spending, over the next decade. Neither proposal includes tax increases or specific cuts to entitlement programs like Medicare.
"I am pleased that neither of the two latest proposals addressing the debt ceiling and fiscal deficit calls for immediate federal retirement cuts," National Treasury Employees Union President Colleen Kelley said in a statement.
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Eh, if and when we get a conservative, he can begin by simpling putting a number of useless agencies on two day work weeks to save money. Peace Corps, National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, EEOC, much of the EPA, Dept of Education, civilian infrastructure withing the DoD...so much can be cut. All of the EO and diversity coordinators within the federal government gone. All non-military pay frozen, to include step raises and COLA’s. There is so much that can be done.
My taxes, your taxes and the Chinese are funding their disposable income and unneeded jobs. They are redundant and in the EPA they are actively sabotaging our energy production and economy. Nuke the Department of Education and those useless workers will just have to find work in the dreaded private sector, same as the rest of us
There is no work in the private sector...
>> most of whom work at the post office or for the Department of Defense.
I understand USPS revenue is derived from postal fees, and not through taxation.
So slash them all. They real reason we don’t slash and eliminate Federal agencies is lots of Federale drones would be out on the streets. Scrounging for work and living in the real world of work and competition. Federale workers are a protected class partly due to them being so top heavy with AA hired minorities and white females. Gays too.
There is no work in the private sector...>>>>>
Exactly! And this is why we are so screwed. That economic growth you hear about is mostly due to Gov’t spending filtering downwards
I don’t like it but we are due for a low level formatting then will have to climb up from there via real work. Gov’t workers on all levels are just trying to preposition themselves so they can continue (emerge) relatively unscathed.
Maybe you should reduce the hiring standards ~ get some folks in those jobs who'll be happy working for $25,000 a year or something.
Yeah, that's the ticket ~
BTW, every federal agency has a special interest group consisting of millions of citizens. They want those agencies.
Go convince the special interests to agree to the cuts first.
USDA, of course, should be disappeared just after Department of Education.
People who want to rip off current or former postal workers would PO Ronald Reagan. They PO me. Makes me want to say "Death to the thieves and their running dog lackeys".
People who want to rip off current or former postal workers would PO Ronald Reagan. They PO me. Makes me want to say "Death to the thieves and their running dog lackeys".
If vets and old folks are going to get cut off then not ONE of these beaurocrats(sp?) needs to see a paycheck either.
Help me out here, I’m not familiar with this $200 billion maneuver. Did he take USPS pension dollars?
They make a very LARGE mark on the budget to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars a year. There are OVER 2 MILLION Civil Nonmilitary personnel in the Federal Workforce ALONE.
The Average wage is $74,400 per year / EXCLUDING Benefits and retirement That drives the cost to over $125,000 per employee.
Just the cost of their salaries and benefits are $250 BILLION a year. Only a Marxist president would consider a Quarter Trillion Dollars to be a small number.
http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs041.htm
That is BEFORE we provide them with an office, work environment, Cafeteria, buildings, office supplies, sexual harassment training, training on how to serf porn sights eight hours a day without getting caught, six weeks vacation and the hundreds of other hidden costs associated with employing a worker.
Everyone has had the pleasure of dealing with their fare share of government bureaucrats. They cost the real World endless headaches and an immense fortune every year.
We do need SOME Government workers. However, we should learn to live with half the number we have, earning significantly less money than they do now. Lower paid employees could hardly be less effective or less motivated to serve, or churn out worse results.
We could also SELL some of the thousands of buildings, vehicles, and LAND that the Federal Government has acquired over the last two hundred years.
It is always a laugh how every government worker ‘can make more money in the private sector’ yet almost none of them ever leave the public service. Fewer than 1/2 of 1% per year are let go. fewer than that leave on their own except to retire and double dip at another job.
Public service is called public service because they do the same thing to the public that a bull does to cows when he services them.
Yet, the truth is that we do have to scale back the military. We have active duty personnel in all over the World that we pay for. W provide protection for sea routes, our allies and even our enemies.
IT is time they pitched in or at least paid us to do their dirty work.
Sorry, you are so full of cr*p it isn't worth debating you.
No federal retiree or current employee can have any faith in any of Obama's pukes.
I personally don't have much of a problem with the post office. It actually is a remarkable organization. However, it is inefficient as well, and it is running an $8 billion a year deficit. They just had a new contract that included across the board raises AND no loss of workers. They could easily shed 10% of their work force, yet they will not. Because it is not their money.
As for having your pensions stolen, WE ALL HAVE. We where FORCED to pay into Social Security, and Medicare to the tune of 15% of our Gross wages, I personally have paid in Hundreds of Thousands of dollars having had the benefit of topping out on many occasions over the past thirty years. Yet, They have been steeling from the ‘trust fund’ for decades. It will never pay off.
We are all in the same boat. YOU WILL GET NO PENSION! THEY LIED TO YOU TOO!
If we do not solve this problem NOW we will have a collapse in this country. If we have a collapse there WILL be blood in the streets. This is a crisis and government salaries and benefits are part of the problem. If you cannot see that than I suggest you look around.
We have to cut back everywhere. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and government workers, their salaries and pensions. It has to be done. There are no sacred cows. Things MUST change. Government at all levels must get significantly more efficient and significantly smaller in order to survive.
The longer we put it off the worse it will be for everyone.
“personal is the BIGGEST monkey in the room and they ignore it?....”
Perhaps you should check the numbers. Personnel costs are a small part of the federal budget.
The harm that one wishes upon others and their livelihood just may come back to haunt YOU.
My federal retirement “contributions” gave you people an interest free loan for many, many years.
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