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Atheist group wants to stop World Trade Center cross
CNN ^ | 07/26/2011 | n/a

Posted on 07/26/2011 12:38:57 PM PDT by Pyro7480

Edited on 07/26/2011 2:35:24 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A group of atheists has filed a lawsuit to stop the display of the World Trade Center cross at a memorial of the 9/11 terror attacks.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: atheist; cross; memorial; wtc
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To: Pyro7480


"Christ's followers have continued to outrage people through two millennia; they are still outraging people today -- and paying the same terrible price. In China, authorities have tortured Christians to death by pouring molten metal over their heads. In North Korea, Christians are sent to re-education camps, tortured, and killed. In Saudi Arabia, the death penalty threatens anyone converting from Islam to Christianity.

Tyrants subject Christians to this ferocious treatment out of fear: The Christian's obedience to a higher authority threatens their own power. China's leaders, for example, are acutely aware of the role Christianity played in the collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe -- and are determined not to let the same thing happen to them.

Since the first century, the story of the carpenter and the Cross has been attacked, ridiculed, driven underground. In the former Soviet Union, Communist leaders spent 70 years trying to wipe out belief. In the West, the story earned the contempt of Enlightenment thinkers and the followers of Darwin and Freud.  Theologians have tried to de-mythologize the Bible, academics have torn it to shreds, and teachers have told generations of children that it's just a collection of myths.

The result? Two billion people worldwide put their faith in Him. The reason is simple: The story is true. God acted in time and space, providing hope for every human being."

— Chuck Colson

81 posted on 07/26/2011 6:55:17 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what ?)
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To: jagusafr

Dave Silverman should be required to drop trou and assure the Court that he has no religious motive.


82 posted on 07/26/2011 6:55:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

now that’s not nice


83 posted on 07/26/2011 7:16:54 PM PDT by pricilla (one should always try to be smarter than the equipment one is operating - Amajato)
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To: Dominic01

There’s no such thing as a “dead atheist.”

And you can take that to the bank.


84 posted on 07/26/2011 7:39:48 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: GraceG
You mean like an agnostic. Atheists seem to pursue anti-religion with the same sort of zeal used by others to farce religion down other’s throats. The opposite of Love isn’t Hate, it is indifference. Because Love and Hate are on one side of the scale of passion where as indifference is on the other. If i could trade every militant atheist in this country for 10 agnostics I would in an instant.

I 'see' things differently. Love in its literal 'pure' form can neither be bought or sold. Say like the natural love of a child. Hate/indifference on the other hand are bought and sold literally or even symbolically day in and day out. And applications of guilt or force to 'believe' are not borne of a natural inclination. When push comes to shove the results are raising up bullies covering every 'emotion' of the human spectrum.

Now, personally speaking I do not need a 'cross' planted anywhere to arouse my 'faith'. The cross was a Roman methodology to deal with the 'criminal' element. As a Christian, to have Emanuel, which means God with us, killed and hung up like a common criminal when he was perfect to fulfill a promise made from the beginning of this flesh age is a reality. And I do not have a need to be flashing or planting a cross as if to say this spot is Christian. But I am NOT offended if others find or have this need.

Who could have or would have predicted that to have our own peoples incinerated or plummeted to their deaths by religious barbarians would end up in having every manner of religionists demanding to have their square inch of recognition.

85 posted on 07/26/2011 8:27:30 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Pyro7480
This has been litigated repeatedly. You lose atheists, get over it.


86 posted on 07/26/2011 11:19:08 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Pyro7480

Funny how the First Amendment is a one-way street these days. Mosque at the WTC, gooooood. Cross at the WTC memorial, baaaad.


87 posted on 07/26/2011 11:32:34 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: GSWarrior
Activist atheists really piss me off.

Ditto. But I've never met an activist atheist who was truly an atheist; they've all turned out to be closet agnostics who are pissed at themselves over their own inability to stop believing in their particular idea of god.

They see a religious symbol and just go OFF because it reminds them of what they can't get their mind away from. Sometimes it's like watching "The Exorcist" with all of the cursing, growling, and frothing at the mouth.

All of a color with screaming, strident, liberal activists of all sorts, though. Same methods, same shrieking, seething anger, only the subject changes.

88 posted on 07/26/2011 11:47:38 PM PDT by HKMk23 (YHVH NEVER PLAYS DEFENSE)
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To: Dominic01

Were these groups as vocal for opposition of the mosque?


89 posted on 07/27/2011 12:33:41 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Talisker

“”Religion” is the subset of faith in general, that people have specifically, in God”

That’s not true. You can’t just make up definitions. Religion and faith are seperate but related concepts. Religion is something that is done, faith is something that is internal, though often expressed. Religion is definitely not a subset of faith.

Rightly I should have used the word belief/faith to describe most atheists, but there are certainly those that engage in religion to express their belief that there is no god.

A majority of Christians today would reject that Christianity is a religion, but rather faith, or more specifically relationship, because Jesus completely rejected religion, which is man’s attempts to be righteous through his own actions.


90 posted on 07/27/2011 3:36:45 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: dblshot
"We should declare Atheism a religion. Then whenever there isn’t something erected anywhere we can sue them."

LOL

91 posted on 07/27/2011 7:31:07 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: dblshot

“We should declare Atheism a religion. Then whenever there isn’t something erected anywhere we can sue them.”

But then they’d be exempt from having to pay taxes!


92 posted on 07/27/2011 10:10:14 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator
Only their Churches would be tax exempt. You know like the 1st Athiest Chuch, St Nobodys Church, Mt Olive in my Martini Church or whatever they would call them. Maybe the YMAA too. Maybe they have a monestary where their monks chant:
Nobody
Nothing
Nobody
93 posted on 07/27/2011 10:54:22 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Pyro7480

Wonder what their position is on the WTC mosque?
No position?
Surprise, surprise...


94 posted on 07/27/2011 7:02:09 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Pyro7480

So at what point to do they demand that all the crosses be removed from the gravestones at Arlington National Cemetery?


95 posted on 07/29/2011 7:25:27 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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