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To: Hodar

You are the one making up facts not me. Miranda is not about self incrimination, that is the fifth amendment. Miranda consists of rights while being under arrest. Right to remain silent (which he has), right to an attorney (which seems to have been denied), and that the state will provide an attorney if he cannot afford one.

A state law does not overturn this man’s 4th amendment rights (due process). There is nothing in the statute (BTW, quit getting your legal facts from Wiki, I looked up the code itself) that says they can hold him indefinitely without trying him. Nothing. So either they try him as a John Doe (which Utah does do - looked that up as well) or they let him go. Real simple.

Links? the Constitution Bill of Rights, Utah legal code.


220 posted on 07/27/2011 7:43:55 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Miranda consists of rights while being under arrest. Right to remain silent (which he has)

You have not provided a single instance supporting this 'right'. The entire purpose of the Supreme Court, is to fill in the holes that the Constitution does not cover. That's hwy we have it. You keep insisting that you have the right to remain totally, and utterly silent. Please show me, where you get this idea. It appears you have simply declared a fact, that has no basis in reality.

I've shown you 2 Supreme Court finding SPECIFICALLY show you to be in error. Your name, and address are NOT protected under the 5th, or Miranda. Your name and address do not serve to incriminate you, or force you to testify against yourself.

223 posted on 07/27/2011 8:29:23 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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