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To: Ratman83
4th says he can keep quite and 5th says he cannnot he forced.

I suggest you read those bills again. You CAN NOT be forced to Witness against yourself, and you cannot be given cruel or unusual punishment. This man is threatened with neither. He will very likely be free to go; as soon as he identifies himself.

Utah is one of the states that has adopted a Stop and identify statutes.

If you don't like the law; work to change the law. I live in Utah, and somehow I'm able to go through life producing my ID when requested. Somehow, I manage to stay out of jail, somehow I manage to hold a job, somehow I manage to pay my bills, raise my family and obey the law. The officers are simply enforcing the laws, as they are written.

134 posted on 07/25/2011 12:03:23 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

The law is not being carried out according to due process. No court is threatening him with contempt and generally even courts give up when they sense their attempt to coerce will not work.


137 posted on 07/25/2011 12:06:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution)
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To: Hodar; Ratman83

He will very likely be free to go; as soon as he identifies himself.
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He should go free even if he doesn’t identify himself.


139 posted on 07/25/2011 12:08:15 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Hodar

I guess they will have to rewrite Miranda , you know you have the right to remain silent, unless we want the info.


141 posted on 07/25/2011 12:13:57 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Hodar
Blah,blah, blah. I've seen your posts on this site for years and have yet to see you object to the application of any law or law enforcement tactic.

You're a unimaginative droning sheep and part of this country's problem.

"It's the law, it's the law, it's the law" like some broken record. Try thinking for yourself and develop just one critique of the system in your life.

Good grief, how can someone go through life as such an anal conformist and authority worshiper?

216 posted on 07/26/2011 9:54:20 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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