Posted on 07/25/2011 5:04:32 AM PDT by daniel1212
My prayers go out to the people of Norway and all of those affected by the vicious murders of Anders Breivik. My intention is not to make less of what happened in Norway, but to explain that his murderous actions were not of the teachings of Christianity.
The following commentary and quotes briefly look at some of Breivik’s positions in his own words against the charge that he was a Christian; much less a fundamentalist Christian. Also, keep in mind that those who have claimed Breivik as being a fundamentalist Christian seem to be using the term as an undefined rhetorical talking point against conservative Christianity.
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Q. Are you a religious man, and should science take priority over the teachings of the Bible?
A: My parents, being rather secular wanted to give me the choice in regards to religion. At the age of 15 I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100% Christian. However, I strongly object to the current suicidal path of the Catholic Church but especially the Protestant Church. I support a Church that believes in self defence and who are willing to fight for its principles and values, at least resist the efforts put forth to exterminate it gradually. The Catholic and Protestant Church are both cheering their own annihilation considering the fact that they embrace the ongoing inter-faith dialogue and the appeasement of Islam.
The current Church elite has shown its suicidal face, as vividly demonstrated last year by the archbishop of Canterbury's speech contemplating the legitimacy of Shariah in parts of Britain.
I trust that the future leadership of a European cultural conservative hegemony in Europe will ensure that the current Church leadership are replaced and the systems somewhat reformed. We must have a Church leadership who supports a future Crusade with the intention of liberating the Balkans, Anatolia and creating three Christian states in the Middle East.
Efforts should be made to facilitate the de-construction of the Protestant Church whose members should convert back to Catholicism. The Protestant Church had an important role once but its original goals have been accomplished and have contributed to reform the Catholic Church as well. Europe should have a united Church lead by a just and non-suicidal Pope who is willing to fight for the security of his subjects, especially in regards to Islamic atrocities.
I fully support that the Church gains more or less monopoly on religion in Europe (government policies, school curriculum etc at least) in addition to granting the Church several concessions which have been taken from them the last decades.
As for the Church and science, it is essential that science takes an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings. Europe has always been the cradle of science and it must always continue to be that way.
Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I'm not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic. However, I am a supporter of a monocultural Christian Europe.
Q: Do I have to believe in God or Jesus in order to become a Justiciar Knight?
A: As this is a cultural war, our definition of being a Christian does not necessarily constitute that you are required to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus. Being a Christian can mean many things;
- That you believe in and want to protect Europe's Christian cultural heritage. The European cultural heritage, our norms (moral codes and social structures included), our traditions and our modern political systems are based on Christianity -Protestantism, Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity and the legacy of the European enlightenment (reasonis the primary source and legitimacy for authority).
It is not required that you have a personal relationship with God or Jesus in order to fight for our Christian cultural heritage and the European way. In many ways, our modern societies and European secularism is a result of European Christendom and the enlightenment. It is therefore essential to understand the difference between a "Christian fundamentalist theocracy" (everything we do not want) and a secular European society based on our Christian cultural heritage (what we do want).
So no, you don't need to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus to fight for our Christian cultural heritage. It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy (Christian holidays, Christmas and Easter)). The PCCTS, Knights Templar is therefore not a religious organisation but rather a Christian "culturalist" military order.
Hobbies and interests?
A: Friends, fitness (weightlifting and spinning), snowboarding, opera, theatre, art exhibitions, antiquities, MMOs, science fiction, Freemasons, European architecture, European history, European art in general, genealogy, heraldry, political/stock/currency/commodity analysis, travelling - learning about different cultures.
Annual grouse hunting trip, Oslo Pistol Club, Norwegian Masonic Greater Lounge.
I took a year off when I was 25 and played WoW PvE hardcore for a year....I’m currently playing Modern Warfare 2 casually. (p. 1408)
If there is a God I will be allowed to enter heaven as all other martyrs for the Church in the past...
I highly recommend that you, prior to the operation, visit a Church and perform the Eucharist (Holy Communion/The Lord’s Supper ). As we know, this ritual represents the final meal that Jesus Christ shared with his disciples before his arrest and eventual crucifixion. You should also solve any issues you might have with God and ask for forgiveness for past sins. Finally, ask him to prepare for the arrival of a martyr for the Church.
Pope Urban II and Pope Innocent III granted indulgence to all future Crusaders The PCCTS, Knights Templars are Destroyers of Marxism and Defenders of Christendom. We are Crusaders, martyrs of the Church, selfless defenders of the weak and the blind. We our not only automatically granted access to heaven in light of our selfless acts; our good deeds and final sacrifice will be added to the divine storehouse of merit and will therefore help other less virtuos individuals...
I usually refer to Protestantism as the Marxism of Christianity. As long as you ask forgiveness before you die you can literally live a life as the most despicable character imaginable.
When a Justiciar Knight martyrs himself for the cause he walks down a path well knowing what is likely to await him. He chooses this path of sacrifice, not for his own self serving needs, but for his family, friends, his people, his culture, his nation and for the preservation of Christendom. As such, he is sacrificing the most divine gift, life itself, in service of others and in service of God.
A Justiciar Knight who martyrs himself for the cause, and/or self terminates during or after an operation for tactical reasons, should be celebrated as martyrs for the Church. It is expected that the Catholic Church and other denominations of Church authorities in Europe (and independent canon law experts) acknowledges our sacrifices and defines our deeds as acts of martyrdom for the Church, according to canon law. The Church should not have second thoughts on the matter as they are fully aware of the fact that European Christendom is gradually being deconstructed.
It is time that the Pope and his cardinals begin to resist the deliberate deconstruction of European Christendom. pp. 1345,46,48,61; 1405
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Those who assert that the terrorist was acting consistent with the Bible are potentially as dangerous as he is.
While religious violence was sanctioned for Israel in a limited context, under the New Testament the Bible does not offer any sanction for physical religious violence, such as,
1. Christians killing others due to their contrary views.
2. the church using violence in correcting false beliefs among church members
3. the church exercising such to rule over those without
4. the church exercising such to expand the physical territory of the church
A possible exception might be in order to save others from being hurt in an immediate situation, but that is hardly a religious context. And historically, rather than religious violence, many Christian Evangelical “fundamentalist” groups have chosen to be complete pacifists.
The early church and its individuals in the New Testament, being under the New Covenant (which Jesus instituted at His death), never used violence. Rather, “we do not war after the flesh, For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal,” “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against..spiritual wickedness..” (2Cor. 10:3,4; Eph. 6:12) Thus “the weapons of our warfare” spiritual, “By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left..” (2Cor. 6:7) While the Crusades are often invoked as an example of church instituted and promoted killing, that was the result of men assuming superior authority over Scripture, along with ignorance of the latter among the laity.
The N.T. does sanction the just use of the sword by the civil government, (Rm. 13:1-7) and while that is based upon moral views in any country, yet the N.T. itself separates the powers. (Mt. 22:21; Jn. 18:36; 1Cor. 5:12)
In contrast, as Jesus kingdom is not of this world, and hence His subjects do not use the sword in order to expand it, the Qur’an makes not such distinction and does promote religious violence. (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/JESUS.Vs.Muhammad.html) Its mundane monologue of theology lacks the context and clarity needed to restrict what “war” against Islam is, and its exhortations to religious violence to simply being in a defensive context, while physical retaliation and fighting is clearly sanctioned and commanded, such as until all the religion of the land be of Allah. (Qur’an:8:39)
As for the atheists and liberals who love to lump all religions together as blood thirsty, know that more killing and oppression has been done under the recent rise of atheism than by religion during this period, from Mao to PolPot to Communism, as its objectively baseless moral reasoning can easily sanction anything as reasonable to achieve its ends. And liberalism’s disciples have exampled their willingness to use violence as well. http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2010/03/16/liberal_violence_five_names_you_should_know/page/full http://pushbacknow.net/2011/01/16/history-of-liberal-violence
From his manifesto, 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, pp. 1402-1403.
“As for the Church and science, it is essential that science takes an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings. Europe has always been the cradle of science and it must always continue to be that way.
Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I’m not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic.”
It sure seems he considered himself some sort of one...an avenging angel in his mind
Note how both he and Mcveigh link Templars a the end all to their idea of setting things right
Times have today fractured in ways no one ever guessed 50 years ago
Major fault lines in the collapse of western civ
The folks telling us he's a Christian Fundamentalist obviously have no understanding of what that means in the American historic context (SEE: Scopes Monkey Trial), and can safely be told that they just don't have any idea so go away.
Remember, the standard in Europe is that the broad masses must accept the belief systems of the ruling elites no matter how stupid those belief systems might be.
In America we are not required to do that ~ doesn't mean we don't have those who go sniffing after European "mind drippings", but they don't need to do that.
We end up with different sporting events, holidays, classes, religious groupings, and standards than Europe due to our freedoms.
If they want to go around killing each other that's probably their business ~ and we should not share in it, nor should we tolerate their bringing their foolish ideas to this country.
Is this still just Christians acting badly, or could it actually be that there is some natural limit to how long a nation's ruler(s) can act as if they were deaf without consequences? Could it be that Marie Antoinette wasn't just a fluke of some sort?
The political situation in several European countries is basically untenable and while no rational person could justify what just happened, it should not have been hard to predict.
One question nobody is asking is how anybody would view this business if the shooter(s) had turned out to be one or more of those 83 rape victims.
Not in this world.......
Got a link to the whole manifesto? I am wondering what his thoughts were on capitalism.
IIRC yes, he was.
I don’t think he was a Christian in any sense. He pretty much says so. I think he just recognized and supports the superiority of Christianity and it’s heritage, over the threatening barbarians of Islam. His actions do not portray a religious man at all.
It is instructive to read Knowing the Enemy by Mary Habeck
(I’ve almost finished it). The book discusses what the jihadis actually believe.
While the book exclaims over and over again that jihadi thought is not generally accepted by most Muslims, my problem with the Muslim world is that very few come out publically and condemn jihadi thought and actions.
Zuhdi Jasser, Walid Shoebat, and a couple of others are the exception, not the rule.
He talks about the “church” in a detatched way. He makes no mention of a relationship to Jesus....just 2,000 years of an “institution” in my book, that does not make him a Christian.
We are known by our fruits and this guy was obviously upset by the direction his government was going and sought to go on a one man crusade to stop what he could.
Not a Christian.
great link, about the 100% of violent rape in Oslo, being done by immigrants (Muslims) almost all against native Norwegians. ...same pattern as on the other side of the world in Australia.
especially amazing since they make up less than 4% of Norway’s population.
(but growing fast. what will Norway be like when it is 10 or 20% ???)
Yet some do understand what Christian Fundamentalist means in the American historical context, and choose to use this and and Westboro Baptist, Harold Camping, etc.m as normative of evangelical Christians. It is working toward the persecution of the end times, when true believers shall be hated of all men, as they will not repent
But while he hopes to use this to get his message out, it is counterproductive as it gives a pretext for those who seek one in order to reject conservatives and silence and evangelical Christian faith.
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