Posted on 07/22/2011 7:07:25 AM PDT by markomalley
Windows blown out in PM's office
Reuters reports state TV says one person has been arrested at the Labour Party youth camp on the island of Utoya.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705
It is never too late.
Thanks for the updates.
CNN & Fox don’t seem to think this is an important story - the heatwave is a bigger story.
Since when isn’t a terrorist explosion in a capital city news???
especially when the bomb has targeted the PM’s office in a city that gave Zero a $ million dollars.
>>> ... the muslims are spreading themselves into the hinterlands - not just the major urban centres ...
Which works both ways, it also means that they are spred thin. And I tend to think the hinterland folks are made of sterner stock.
The PM was supposed to be on the island attending the conference at some point.
The liberals in Oslo gave Obama a Nobel prize for his willingness to coddle these terrorists. This is a symbolic bombing as well.
Please God - let at least one of the good people be armed...
Are the Norwegians permitted to have guns?
If not, maybe they will be allowed to carry now.
Two points on the youth camp shooting:
First, don’t be surprised if the guy wearing a “police like” uniform turns out to be an actual police officer, hired to fulfil some affirmative action program.
Second, it’s more than just a bit creepy that political parties have their own youth camps, which I expect are aimed at indoctrination.
“Are the Norwegians permitted to have guns?
If not, maybe they will be allowed to carry now.”
It took me a minute to decide what bothered me about that statement. It should say:
“If not, maybe they will demand their right to carry now.”
I understand this happened several hrs ago, so maybe the coverage has backed off. I don’t know.
But it seems like Fox has just started reported that this was a corrdinated terrorist attack, right after having Bolton on who made that suggestion.
I wouldn’t be surprised. By tomorrow morning some imam will claim that a rock was thrown at an Oslo mosque and the Norwegian politicians will rail against “islamophobia” and state that they will not tolerate intolerance toward “innocent” mulsims.
Revised: 1st October, 1998
This law affects all firearms, The Firearms Act paragraph 1:
“A firearm is a weapon that by the use of a charge of gunpowder or by a mechanical device can shoot bullets, shot or other projectiles.”
The following fall outside the law and can be sold freely: air guns, harpoon guns, flare guns, starting pistols, humane killers, modern firearms that are permanently de-activated. Antique guns: rifles and shotguns manufactured prior to 1885, pistols manufactured prior to 1871 (these may be fired).
To acquire any firearm in Norway you must obtain a “Permit to Acquire” from the police. This costs N.Kr.125 (ca. GB£12) per application. There is no upper limit on the number of firearms you can apply for. There is no set time on how long the application takes to process, but in my area 10 to 14 days is normal. With the permit in hand the gun can be purchased. The seller countersigns the form and returns it to the police. The gun is registered in the name of the purchaser and a Firearms Permit is issued and sent to the buyer after a few weeks. The original form acts as a temporary permit. The Firearms Permit is valid for the rest of that persons life. The police have a register of local gun owners. The permit must be shown when buying ammunition, and only ammunition in the calibre shown on the permit can be purchased. The permit must also be shown when buying primers and powder (gunpowder).
To be considered for issuance of a permit the applicant must have “valid reason”. Valid reasons include (but are not limited to): Hunting, Vermin Control, Target Shooting, Collecting, Self-Defence. A self-defence permit allows the person to carry a pistol concealed, but these are rarely granted.
No type of firearm is banned in Norway, however the type of firearm you can own is dictated by the use to which it will be put:
•Hunting or Vermin Control: any shotgun and any rifle except military style semi-auto rifles.
•Target Shooting: any shotgun, rifle or pistol appropriate to the type of shooting. For example you wouldn’t be granted a permit for a pistol if you were a member of a Skeet Club.
•Collecting: any type of firearm (including full-auto). In recent years collectors have been asked to define their “Area of Interest”. A collector who has as an area of interest of “German Military Weapons 1890 - 1945” would be allowed to collect full-auto Schmeissers, Maxims, etc. A collector who has as an area of interest of “Winchester Rifles” would be limited to rifles from Winchester.
•Members of the armed forces (this also includes reservists and part-timers) are entitled to a permit for any gun, except full-auto.
The minimum age for acquisition is: 18 years for rifles and shotguns (16 years with parental consent). 21 years for pistols.
To acquire a rifle or shotgun for hunting you must first have passed the hunter safety course (Jegerprove).
To acquire a rifle shotgun or pistol you must have been a member of a pistol club for six months, have shot at least 15 times (with the club’s guns) and have passed a gun safety course.
To gain collector status you must first have a collection (Catch 22 eh!). The collection could be of antique guns, or deactivated guns, or even militaria like uniforms or bayonets. When the collection exceeds 25 guns you have to install extra security at home, and the police have to approve this. Guns in a collection can be fired.
Oh, and by the way silencers are available over the counter - no registration or anything. The use of a silencer is seen as an act of good neighbourliness.
A gun acquired for one purpose can be used for other purposes (as long as it is legal). For example a collector could go hunting with one of his rifles, whilst a hunter could use her shotgun for shooting trap.
You must provide secure storage for you gun at home. When the house is unoccupied the gun must be stored unloaded and locked up (or a vital part removed). The ammunition must be locked up separately from the gun. The police may inspect your storage and if they consider it inadequate make recommendations as to improving it.
About one adult in eight possesses a registered firearm. There are large numbers of (legally) unregistered guns in addition to these. Somewhere between one household in three and one in four have a gun. The government supports target shooting with direct subsidies of millions of kroner each year. Large numbers of skilled riflemen are seen as beneficial to the nation’s defence - the fullbore rifle association has some 200,000 members (Not bad for a country with 4.4 million population).
Foreigners can visit Norway with guns and ammunition to participate in hunting and/or competitions. A visitors permit is issued. Apply beforehand at your local Norwegian embassy. They will need a letter from the person or shooting club that is inviting you. Unless you are royalty or a visiting head of state a visitors carry permit will not be issued!
Foreigners moving to Norway with guns should alert customs beforehand. They are pretty laid back about shotguns and hunting rifles, and owners of these are often allowed to carry them through. Owners of other types of firearms may find that customs (or a local firearms dealer) hold these guns until the owner has joined an appropriate shooting club.
We all suspected that there is a link between the bombing and youth camp shooting, but it is now confirmed by the Norwegian police. On CNN blog just a few minutes ago:
“date: 1:38 p.m. ET, 7:38 p.m. Oslo] The police have good reason to believe there is a link between the shooting on an island where a Labour Party youth camp was taking place and an explosion in central Oslo earlier, police spokesman Bjorn Erik Sem-Jacobsen tells Norwegian state broadcaster NRK.
He is the spokesman for the police station nearest to Utoya island, where the camp is being held. The prime minister, whose office was badly damaged by the blast, leads Norway’s Labour Party.”
Great info. Thanks,
If they had devoted full resources to kicking al-Qaeda’s ass in the first place, problems would be less today. Most will stand with the winners.
From the dialymailuk:
1.30pm: Massive car bomb explosion kills at least seven in Oslo
3.30pm: Five dead as man disguised as police officer opens fire on island youth meeting Norwegian prime minister was due to attend
550pm: Reports of people swimming from the island
Man arrested on the island where shootings took place
Police fear explosives may have been laid at camp
Unknown group called ‘Helpers of the Global Jihad’ said to have posted message saying this is reaction to publication of Muhammed cartoons
Islands residents told not to reveal their location on Twitter or Facebook
Gruesome pictures at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Oslo-explosion-Huge-bomb-blast-kills-maims-dozens-attack-government-office-block.html
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