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Cop threatens to execute driver over concealed weapon permit
Jalopnik ^ | 7/21/2011 | Justin Hyde

Posted on 07/22/2011 1:14:25 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter

Among the pressures facing police officiers working the streets of America is the rising number of people legally carrying concealed guns. But when one such licensee was pulled over in Canton, Ohio, an officer threatened to shoot him on the spot. Here's the chilling video.

The arrest took place in early June, but the video only came to light today from a group called Ohioans for Concealed Carry. They had been working on behalf of the driver of the Pontiac Grand Prix, known so far only as William, who was arrested and charged in the stop.

As the 17-minute dashcam video shows, the two Canton police officers see the car pulled over in a neighborhood and detain a male passenger and a woman standing outside, whom the officers quickly identify as a prostitute. After telling the driver to stay put, they detain the male passenger and search the back of the car for a few minutes.

Only after that search does Officer Daniel Harless start questioning William, some seven minutes into the video — who then admits, when he can get a word in, that he has a concealed weapon, and tries to show Harless his permit. When he discovers William's gun in his belt, Harless instead becomes enraged: "You are supposed to say that right off the goddamned bat!"

Right now, the shit that you just pulled, I could blast you right in the mouth...I am so close to caving in you're goddamn head...you're just a stupid human being...People like you don't deserve to move throughout public. Stupid idiot."

After searching the car, getting worked up with his partner, and hearing from police dispatch that William does indeed have a legal permit to carry a concealed weapon, Harless comes back to the cruiser where William has been detained:

I swear to God man this little bull crap you just pulled right now has got me so hot. You know what I should have done? I'll tell you what I should have done. As soon as I saw your gun, I should have taken two steps back, pulled my Glock 40 and just put ten bullets in your ass and let you drop. And I wouldn'tve lost any sleep. And he would have been a nice witness as I executed you because you're stupid.

William was charged with two misdemeanor counts; one for stopping in the roadway, and another for failing to inform officers of his weapons.

After the video surfaced, the Canton police announced that Harless had been put on indefinite suspension last month, and the case forwarded to Internal Affairs. Ohio gun activists are raising money for William's defense. And the rest of us get to hope the next misunderstanding ends more amicably, rather than less.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; gelato; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; ohio; prostitutes
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To: SZonian

As a photographer, if you are outdoors, in public space, you have no “assumed right to privacy.” I can take a picture of you and post it on the web and in a newspaper. I cannot sell it for commercial gain, but you cannot stop me from taking the photo.

I am not sure why a cop would feel any differently.

And what if you created a black box for your car that measured all of the speed, etc. and had forward and rearward looking video cameras. That could be used to reduce your insurance significantly. And it would catch crap like this.


141 posted on 07/22/2011 7:51:46 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: Jonty30

“did something happen in either Ohio or the officer’s personal life that had him so on edge?”

Yeh he’s a psycho. I think its called “unfit for duty”


142 posted on 07/22/2011 7:52:27 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SZonian

A comment on the facebook page said that the officer had been investigated 16 times by IA for excessive force and one reprimand had been placed in his file.


143 posted on 07/22/2011 8:01:24 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Fee

can’t someone get ripped without taking steroids?


144 posted on 07/22/2011 8:15:25 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Vermont Lt

The cops feel differently because they are the POLICE and you had best not forget it or you will be punished.


145 posted on 07/22/2011 8:21:58 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: SZonian

It is the justification used by Illinois to banning cops being filmed.

And I don’t agree with it. In fact, I think they should have a camera on their shirt at all times when on duty.


146 posted on 07/22/2011 8:36:01 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Ah, I didn't know that CCW license holders are required to offer that info immediately upon being stopped. ...even if they're not asked.

Took my CCW class in Utah. The police officers that gave the class repeatedly said to let the officer who has pulled you over, or whatever, you let them know you have a CCW and you are armed or have a gun in the vehicle. BTW, the Police Officers who gave the class were exceptionally friendly, knowledged and answered all questions from the class.

The weird thing about this stop is that the cop didn't approach the driver for 7 minutes, and from what I could understand from the tape, the driver handed him his CCW as soon as he was at the window.

FMCDH(BITS)

147 posted on 07/22/2011 8:39:32 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: raygun
You said:

What does a cop make now'days after all their training, degrees and experience? $29k?

I answered your question for a couple cities:

Starting pay in Cleveland is $48k. Chicago starts at $43k and jumps to $61k the second year

You said:

It sounds like a bunch of gibberish coming from you...

Could you or someone else explain where the gibberish is?

148 posted on 07/22/2011 9:01:02 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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bfl


149 posted on 07/22/2011 9:25:18 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Where is the charge against the cop for felony menacing? Are cops above the law? If so, we need to abolish them from having such authority.


150 posted on 07/22/2011 9:30:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Rannug

“I believe the driver in this instance, to be wrong by not being more authoritive in informing the leos. “

He was told by the authority controlling the situation to shut up. He did so. How is that wrong? The cops need to take responsibility for their actions.


151 posted on 07/22/2011 9:32:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: antisocial

“A comment on the facebook page said that the officer had been investigated 16 times by IA for excessive force and one reprimand had been placed in his file.”

What that cop did and appearantly has been doing should be a hanging offense. Threatening a citizen with lethal force under authority of the government should be a capital offense.


152 posted on 07/22/2011 9:34:49 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: raygun
$29k?

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Please, buy a clue.

153 posted on 07/22/2011 9:34:57 AM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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154 posted on 07/22/2011 9:41:20 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Progov

Please watch the video. Then you can be an informed statist a-hole rather than in ignorant satist a-hole.


155 posted on 07/22/2011 9:42:14 AM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: raygun
I still NEED that window.

I've been looking behind the garage and I've got the windshield and the back window but someone stole the driver's side window. Sorry.

156 posted on 07/22/2011 9:43:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Ratman83

As my grandfather used to tell me when I was looking for a job as a 20 year old: “They don’t give a crap about how you ‘feel’, they give a crap about what you can do.”

I dont care how they feel. We should only be concerned if there is a safety issue involved (such as revealing the ID of someone under cover.)


157 posted on 07/22/2011 10:06:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: Straight Vermonter
To be fair...

Good Cop.

158 posted on 07/22/2011 10:11:15 AM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: Vermont Lt
And what if you created a black box for your car that measured all of the speed, etc. and had forward and rearward looking video cameras. That could be used to reduce your insurance significantly. And it would catch crap like this...

One company makes a product called "Drivecam."

159 posted on 07/22/2011 10:15:42 AM PDT by gogeo (...and if you're greener than Gore, you're green enough!!! Robert A Hall)
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To: KDD
Oceanside PD, right outside of Camp Pendleton. The cops in O'side, Carlsbad and the Deputies in Vista and San Marcos tend to be pretty good folks.
160 posted on 07/22/2011 10:21:22 AM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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