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Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to certify that gays can serve openly in the armed services
AP/Buffalo News ^ | 7/21/11

Posted on 07/21/2011 3:40:38 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Lynn

“A question I have asked many for the last two years concerning our President. If his presidency is illegitimate then should he not be held accountable for military KIAs due to orders he has given. People want to downgrade the importance of his birth certificate and his legitimacy as President, but there are serious ramifications here if it is discovered he is not eligible to be President thus giving unlawful orders that result in the deaths of many military service members.”

Bingo.

AS well as every thing else he has done in his official capacity as POTUS, to include appointments, nominations, bills, laws, treaties, name it.


21 posted on 07/21/2011 4:35:46 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: markomalley

Don’t drop the soap.


22 posted on 07/21/2011 4:37:49 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: RC one

It’s in his discretion to say that doing so would have a negative effect on retention and recruitment. But he won’t, because he’s a Progressive.


23 posted on 07/21/2011 4:46:03 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: markomalley

I wonder how the Taliban would react to being “engaged” by the 5th Gay Battalion?


24 posted on 07/21/2011 5:02:52 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: roaddog727
Who said the “sitting president is eligible to give said order, and if ineligible to sit as president, is said order then lawful?

well no one with any authority in our Government has said Obama is not eligible to be President. I happen to personally believe Obama is ineligible but who am I but just a FReeper? I am not aware of a single member of Congress making the case he is not eligible. So from a pragmatic standpoint your statement is meaningless. The solution is not to expect the Military to disobey legal orders but for us to seek impeachment and we all know that won't happen.

25 posted on 07/21/2011 5:06:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: markomalley
May God have mercy on His remnant left in this perverse land.

One day there may come a Belisarius, but by then, as it was in the past, it will be too late.

26 posted on 07/21/2011 5:10:22 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: markomalley

I’m glad I retired before it was mandatory.


27 posted on 07/21/2011 5:14:54 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440

“Donut Donny”


28 posted on 07/21/2011 5:22:12 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: RC one; xzins; wagglebee
he can’t defy a lawful order given by the sitting president. there isn’t much else to say about it as far as his involvement in this goes.

Panetta is not a soldier. He can tell Obama to pound sand on any order he issues. Obama can fire him. That's about it. But Panetta is not bound by any order Obama issues.

If Panetta thought this was an order that would harm the military, he would be duty bound to tell Obama that he is not going to carry it out. Then Obama would have to fire him and appoint a new lackey to carry out his vile orders.

29 posted on 07/21/2011 5:23:13 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o)
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To: markomalley

I hate this. But the teachers unions have been promoting this for 10 years. The teens today think it’s normal. I’m going to be an 80 year old grandma and I’m going to be looked at as a racist 80 year old grandma back in the 70’s. The only difference is, I’m not F’ing my same sex partner. Perversion is prevision.

“Hello, my name is Sue, and I’m a hetro”. Who cares?


30 posted on 07/21/2011 5:52:47 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: fwdude

“What ever happened to the defense authorization bill amendment Republicans added that required all armed forces division chiefs would have to sign off as well?”

They signed off on it about 2 weeks ago.


31 posted on 07/21/2011 5:54:42 PM PDT by Hawk720
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To: kabar

Which branch of the Armed Forces did you serve?


32 posted on 07/21/2011 5:56:44 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley

Four more years and the draft will be debated to be reinstated.


33 posted on 07/21/2011 5:57:24 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Huskrrrr

You’ll never wield a sword. Get real, Europe is all gay. You’re going to sit at your comfy desk and post comments on an internet site. “Conservatives” have a lot of bravado. Are you really going to fight this fight?


34 posted on 07/21/2011 5:57:26 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
"They will rue the day"

Thank you. Considering your screen name I trust you.

35 posted on 07/21/2011 5:59:32 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Support the troops. Every Friday night at Walter Reed.)
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To: Hawk720

So is every branch leader going to confirm and sign off that the repeal will not harm the military. I thought two of the armed service branch chiefs were wary of this?


36 posted on 07/21/2011 6:00:14 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: markomalley

I can’t wait for the first headline “Gay PFC killed in a ‘friendly fire’ incident in Afghanistan.


37 posted on 07/21/2011 6:00:50 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Exactly right, the ranks will take care of their own. There will be a lot of accidents now. Lots of queers will be going home in plastic bags.


38 posted on 07/21/2011 6:04:03 PM PDT by Concho (-)
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To: fwdude

Apparently they all have already signed off. According to the AP:

“His decision, which was expected, comes two weeks after the chiefs of the military services told Panetta that ending the ban would not affect military readiness. Dismantling the ban fulfills a 2008 campaign promise by President Barack Obama, who helped usher the repeal through Congress and signed it into law late last December.”

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-panetta-ok-end-military-gay-ban-224823254.html


39 posted on 07/21/2011 6:06:42 PM PDT by Hawk720
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To: Concho
Lots of queers will be going home in plastic bags.

Ya think?

Can a corpsman refuse to touch a gay soldiers blood?

40 posted on 07/21/2011 6:11:05 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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