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Debating the McConnell Plan - In the House, Republicans are divided on how much to compromise.
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | July 18, 2011 | Andrew Stiles

Posted on 07/18/2011 5:15:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: SkyPilot
"McCain he going to give away to Obama the Constitutional power of the purse that only Congress now has.

Nothing would please Obama more than knowing he wouldnt have to contend with those pesky Repubs in the House in order to nosedive this country into absolute Tyranny. In fact I'd say the ONLY thing preventing absolute tyranny is the fact that all spending originates in the House (via the People). So Obama can go pound sand. Better that NO deal passes rather than one which is advantageous to those ruffians in the WH.

21 posted on 07/18/2011 6:00:18 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: radioone
What Exactly are we not compromising on......a blank check for the Democrats?

And getting Zer0 re-elected.

22 posted on 07/18/2011 6:00:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SkyPilot
I posted that the minute that I saw boehner’s interview on fox... back a week or so ago. We have been sold out since the beginning.

LLS

23 posted on 07/18/2011 6:00:47 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: combat_boots
"And WHO IS GOING TO PAY?"

"Your 401k, naturally" - Obama

24 posted on 07/18/2011 6:02:49 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: radioone

The new tea party House members were not elected in record number to compromise their principles do do business as usual in Washington D.C. They were sent to stop business as usual practices and cut the spending. It may not look good in the media or be popular with the veteran House members, but they had better get used to this. The old way is going to hit the highway. The GOP does not have to do anything, but offer up a true solution.


25 posted on 07/18/2011 6:06:25 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: doggieboy

That is a good assessment, but this teen..does not and will not be held responsible for it. As I understood or misunderstood it, most of the detrimental and personal portions of the healthcare bill take place after his term. Well planned and well timed to hang the blame on someone else. What is your proposal? I say vote him in until he can be the only one to be blamed. So you think a balanced budget amendment is the way to go? I say absolutely not. That only means they will be required to increase taxes if the bill runs “higher than expected”. I am firmly against balanced budgets.


26 posted on 07/18/2011 6:08:15 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: All

Long posts don’t get read.

Two points only:

1) Boehner MAY NOT put the McConnell bill on the floor if he does not have a majority of Republicans in favor of it. Period. Forget Pelosi. If he tries to pass the bill with a minority of Republicans and all the Democrats, he will be removed from the Speakership before the vote.

2) NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BEYOND A REDUCTION IN FY2012 SPENDING. NOT TAXES. NOT TEN YEAR NUMBERS. Triple digit billions must be removed from FY2012 spending. Period.


27 posted on 07/18/2011 6:08:36 PM PDT by Owen
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To: kindred
Ryan and the rest of these pukes see this as the proper path for them to take because they still think that the House is a prestigious institution, when it more closely resembles the Sopranos. dims always fight to win and they usually do... because they do not care about odds or PR or whether they are seen as petty and elitist.

They did not care when polls told them not to pass obamacare... by 78% being against its passage... they just pushed ahead with secret midnight votes and doing “WHATEVER IT TAKES” to win.

We have illegal gun running and a president in violation of the War Powers Act and an illegal war in Libya etc... and we worry about being proper and these dims do not even value life or America. No one died in Watergate indeed!

LLS

28 posted on 07/18/2011 6:09:30 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Well, at least they had a band.


29 posted on 07/18/2011 6:11:15 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Owen
"2) NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BEYOND A REDUCTION IN FY2012 SPENDING. NOT TAXES. NOT TEN YEAR NUMBERS. Triple digit billions must be removed from FY2012 spending. Period."

My firmly held, previously stated opinion too. (Use a bigger front next time)

30 posted on 07/18/2011 6:13:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: neverdem

“House conservatives are already gearing up to reject it en masse. House GOP leaders, however, have refused to rule out the McConnell option.”

House conservatives, House leaders.

There’s the dichotomy problem.

Dump Bonehead 2012!


31 posted on 07/18/2011 6:13:14 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Owen
"2) NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BEYOND A REDUCTION IN FY2012 SPENDING. NOT TAXES. NOT TEN YEAR NUMBERS. Triple digit billions must be removed from FY2012 spending. Period."

My firmly held, previously stated opinion too. (Use a bigger font next time)

32 posted on 07/18/2011 6:13:35 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Monorprise

Thanks for the link.


33 posted on 07/18/2011 6:23:34 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

How does one compromise with an addiction, and to what end?


34 posted on 07/18/2011 6:36:45 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: neverdem
“In an effort to make McConnell’s plan somewhat more palatable to House Republicans, Senate leaders are discussing a spending-cut package in the range of $1.5 trillion and the creation of a commission charged with drafting a non-amendable, filibuster-proof deficit plan to be sent to Congress by the end of the year. The final plan could even allow for the House to determine the makeup of the spending-cuts package. But even then, conservative members are unlikely to budge.”

The 1.5 trillion is peanuts & the commission/plan is just BS. The commission will take “longer than anticipated” - closer to 16 months than 4, then whatever plan is hatched will simply be voted down by the Rats. Meanwhile, Obama will have his $2.4 trillion to spend to get reelected. A school girl would catch this scam. The offer is an insult to the intelligence of a rock.

If they want to offer something of value, why not a lifetime membership in the Flat Earth Society.

35 posted on 07/18/2011 6:37:43 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: TennTuxedo
Yes, & the Tea Party conservatives will lose all credibility if they vote to increase the debt. Obama will have the funds to get reelected & the Tea Party will be history.

What amazes me is that strong, rational, conservative people become MUSH when they enter Congress.

36 posted on 07/18/2011 6:58:53 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: FatherofFive; Charles Henrickson
FatherofFive, allow me to introduce to you fellow FReeper and versifier Charles Henrickson.

Well done, sir.

Cheers!

37 posted on 07/18/2011 7:02:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FatherofFive; doug from upland
FatherofFive, permit that I also introduce you to fellow FReeper and versifier dougfromupland.

Well done, again, I say to you, sir.

Cheers!

38 posted on 07/18/2011 7:04:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Paladin2; Owen
(Use a bigger font next time)

And color it RED too!

39 posted on 07/18/2011 7:06:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem
"“It’s like a foreign country to me,” says one senior GOP Senate aide."

Yeah, aide.

The foreign country is called "America".

40 posted on 07/18/2011 7:12:59 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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