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To: FourtySeven
So then, you're saying that the prerequisite for getting your vote is to be Catholic. Are you saying that a Kennedy, Pelosi, Kerry, and any number of other evil Catholics are preferable to a pro-life conservative like Bachmann, or even myself?

Does being a member of the Catholic church automatically get one into heaven where all non-Catholics go to hell like the Catholic teaches?

Then this means non Catholics cannot vote for Catholics and Catholics cannot vote for non Catholics.

I reject the infallibility of the Pope but I believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior and I hope that all Catholics also believe as I do in the Nicene Creed. (I exclude the liberal Catholics) We cannot let this divisive thread try to split the conservative movement. I found this extremely interesting and use it as a way to emphasize our similarities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed

390 posted on 07/18/2011 8:28:54 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So then, you're saying that the prerequisite for getting your vote is to be Catholic. Are you saying that a Kennedy, Pelosi, Kerry, and any number of other evil Catholics are preferable to a pro-life conservative like Bachmann, or even myself?

No, please let me clarify. I can understand why you or anyone may conclude what you wrote above though, I'm sorry.

To me, there is a difference between simply not being Catholic, and being anti-Catholic. The latter would clearly engender political motivations and/or beliefs, even if only at a subconscious yet still effectual level, that would and could threaten my faith should such a person gain any any political power. That is, even if such a person "didn't mean it", such a person could be a threat to the free expression of my faith. I submit this is a reasonable conclusion because we are all not robots. We do not do things, much less believe in ideas, just because, as if such actions and beliefs came out of the air. No, as I stated in my previous post, we either obtain our politics from our faith, or from the "world" or "the powers that be" (that is, because someone told us so, and we think that person should be able to tell us what to do because they "know more about history", or, "they know more about the Bible". This is what many think Catholics do wrt the Pope. Indeed, I will even grant that many Catholics do this, but that isn't Catholicsm; that isn't thinking for yourself. That's being a victim of the "powers that be".)

My point is that we, as human beings, don't live in a vacuum and behave like machines, in a truly "objective" manner ("objectivity" here defined as the ideal proposed in the so called "Enlightenment"). Human beings can never behave like robots. It's impossible. Human beings will always follow an authority, whether they realize it or not. And for the case of an anti-Catholic, a dangerous authority, at least for me. I don't think inhave to explain any more. I apologize for the confusion.

395 posted on 07/18/2011 8:58:37 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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