[qam1]

Do I think SS and Medicare need to be reformed..I absolutely do. I hope they are in a way that is fair to all. Do we need to pare the over bloated government in a way that they can keep their promises to our lenders and citizens? Yes. And that can be done by shutting down non-constitutional departments (DOE, EPA..etc).

Yes the Republicans are stupid.

I would like to see both programs phased out

But from a political stand point SS and Medicare should be last, not 1st on the chopping block

Cut Obama's Czars, cut foreign aid, cut medicaid and welfare, cut Farm subsidies, The environment and education are no longer the third rails they once were so you can target the NEA and EPA also.

How can you tell a senior you are cutting their social security but we are still going to give James Hansen billions for his global warming nonsense or billions to Archer Daniels Midland.

Make Obama defend those

After the government is stripped down, then go for SS & medicare.

[berdie]

Very well stated.

I don’t think SS or Medicare or Obamacare should have ever been instituted at all. But they were.

A reform is due...at the proper time.

[rabscuttle385]

But from a political stand point SS and Medicare should be last, not 1st on the chopping block

It's amusing yet sad to watch conservatives in a frenzy to defend government-run wealth redistribution and government-run health care.

[jospehm20]

I agree. There are hundreds of billions of dollars that should be cut from the federal government budget before SS and Medicare need to be tackled. There are entire cabinet departments and countless programs that need to go away first.

[gogeo]

But from a political stand point SS and Medicare should be last, not 1st on the chopping block...

Conservatives are losing the PR battle because they think it's morally questionable to think in terms of strategy.

They will change when they tire of being good losers, and understand this is a democratic republic, not a monarchy.