You were inattentive. The web site you reference claims that tax increases raise revenue. I claimed that this statement was counterfactual when made across the board: in other words, it holds in full generality no more than the claim that no tax increase raises revenue. As you correctly point out, some do and some don't.
The mathematics of this is trivial: at 0% tax, there is no revenue. At 100% tax, there is also none after the initial taking. Revenue over time as a function of tax rate is not identically zero, yet it is zero at the end points. Therefore by Rolle's Theorem there exists a point (rate) between zero and 100% where revenue is maximized. When you are to the right of this point in a right-handed coordinate system, decreasing the rate raises revenue, when to the left, increasing rates raise revenue. The purveyour of your cited website actually believes that raising rates always increase revenue. This is mathematically impossible.
Like you, I am not sanguine about the effect of Ryan's plan on electoral outcomes. That is a shame because it means that either Republicans must get better at making people understand that we must cut entitlements or the Republic is finished. What I pointed out to you, quite correctly, is that the poll results do not favor the Democrats proposals to anything like the degree that you claim that "19 polls show Americans favor raising taxes." They simply don't. Most of the polls cited as notes added in proof of the statement by this misleading website do not even ask that question.
In response to your challenge, I have cited the two most recent polls on this issue. They show that the majority of Americans -- and overwhelming majorities of Republicans and Independents -- understand that spending is the largest part of the problem. Contrary to what you said in your original post, these polls are not altogether bad news for us.
I agree with that that poll result you cite is correct, that voters believe spending is the bigger problem. Dems are reading that one too.
That is why Obama set the big trap by making a phony public offer of >1 trillion in budget cuts(wasn't really an offer either just a leak) ‘on the table’, a offer he couldnt deliver on and Pelosi wont go for. He knew by adding those poll tested tax loopholes as a demand that Republicans would feel they have to reject it outright. So now he goes out to voters and says ‘I tried and Republicans turned me down’ . Now Pelosi is playing along saying she will support the cuts if Republicans come back, yet she could never deliver those cuts.
Worse yet it looks like the House is so fractured they cant even pass a shorter extension with cuts to call Obama’s bluff. One theory is the surrender plan was to convince House Republicans to vote for something.
They took advantage of Republicans disunity and lack of a plan. So far anyway, I guess it's not over yet.
It was not meant as a challenge and I dont think my words indicated that. I always welcome MORE information being posted for me and others to discuss and learn from, especially helpful if it comes with a source link. I learn alot from Freepers reading my comments and correcting me (as long as they are serious and civil) even if I disagree.
On tax revenue/increases, there is a cult like belief that is spread on talk radio that implies that 'any' tax increase decreases revenue and vice versa. This is like Democrats claiming the stimulus would fix the deficit by increasing revenue. It's Snata Claus stuff. House Republicans have been going on TV saying that they want NO net tax increases (loop hole stuff) because Democrats would just spend the 'increased revenue' .