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John Boehner: Keep Mitch McConnell's plan on table
POLITICO ^ | 7/14/11 | SEUNG MIN KIM

Posted on 07/14/2011 12:04:23 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man

Speaker John Boehner on Thursday left the door open to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s last-ditch plan to raise the debt limit.

“I think it’s worth keeping on the table,” Boehner said.

McConnell’s plan would give President Barack Obama the power to raise the debt ceiling three times through 2012, unless Congress stops it with a two-thirds majority vote. Under that plan, Republicans could vote against raising the debt ceiling without risking default.

“What may look like something less of an optimal today, if we’re unable to get to an agreement, might look good a couple of weeks from now,” the Ohio Republican told reporters on Thursday.

When asked whether there are votes in the House for McConnell’s proposal, Boehner said: “I have no idea.”

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Boehner, at that point, joined Cantor at the podium, putting his arm around his No. 2 as reporters laughed.

“Let me just say, we have been in this fight together,” Boehner said. “Any suggestion that the role that Eric has played in these meetings has been anything less than helpful is just wrong. We’re in the foxhole.”

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debtdeal; johnboehner; mitchmcconnell
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Translation. He has a RINO/RAT coalition to pass it if needed.


21 posted on 07/14/2011 12:28:05 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The McConnell plan isn’t the best but it will work and even with that Obama gets the short end of the stick because he will HAVE to come up with cuts.


22 posted on 07/14/2011 12:28:41 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“I think it’s worth keeping on the table,” Boehner said”

I think it’s worth sacking YOU, as Speaker and putting a REAL American in that seat, YOU pissed up!


23 posted on 07/14/2011 12:31:10 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Publius

I hadn’t looked at it that way. I hope that’s the strategy—and that the bad cop gets the last word.


24 posted on 07/14/2011 12:32:27 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: FrankR
My understanding of McConnell's plan is that no matter what Obama submitted, it would ultimately require a congressional vote. It forces Obama to come up with some actual numbers.

My problem with McConnell's plan is it gives cover to any Republicans who are getting wobbly in the knees.

25 posted on 07/14/2011 12:33:51 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man
What I took away from it was, the President would set the ceiling and if congress didn't like it they could vote it down with a 2/3rd's vote. We only have one half of one brance of government. This would give obama the dictatorial powers he has been craving.

Don't let Obama turn into ObeyMe.
26 posted on 07/14/2011 12:36:54 PM PDT by FrankR ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat." - R. Reagan)
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To: Thane_Banquo

you may be right.

You see then that there is sort of Zero chance he will “accept” this proposal, right?

(If I were him, I would accept it, and then hope that the House kills it.....why can’t he make that same calculation?)


27 posted on 07/14/2011 12:37:58 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Tex-Con-Man

It proves the repub’s are not serious. Why are they negotiating with the obama, don’t spending bills originate in the house. Pass the bill send it to the senate and go on vacation. Let Ried piss and moan and crap his pants.


28 posted on 07/14/2011 12:43:59 PM PDT by qman
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To: Tex-Con-Man

It proves the repub’s are not serious. Why are they negotiating with the obama, don’t spending bills originate in the house. Pass the bill send it to the senate and go on vacation. Let Ried piss and moan and crap his pants.


29 posted on 07/14/2011 12:44:21 PM PDT by qman
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To: ConservativeDude

I think if the McConnell plan passed, O’Bozo would sign it. The reason I saw they should leave it on the table is, it stays as a threat to Obama (he’d sign it because he would have to, not because he would want to). Additionally, I am not sure will ever get anything out of Obama anyway. So the McConnell plan, where we force him to at least name SOME cuts, would at least be a step in the right direction. Then, come January 21, 2013, we have a GOP President, House, and Senate, and we repeal Obamacare, reform entitlements, fire the bureaucrats, and drastically reduce discretionary spending.


30 posted on 07/14/2011 12:46:10 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Why not go ahead and give him the authority to pick the next President?

Why not give him the authority to make the laws by himself?

Why not just go ahead and make him ruler for life?

Why not give him the authority to abolish Congress?

My question would be, why give the sob anything? I despise him ean every son of a bitch that voted for him.

31 posted on 07/14/2011 12:52:39 PM PDT by sport
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To: Tex-Con-Man
McConnell thinks this is a game and he is out to score points, where as the democraps see it as gang warfare and are out to kick you in the balls.
32 posted on 07/14/2011 12:57:25 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: frogjerk

Exactly....that house will never pass it...you have the majority because of the freshman congressmen/women...they are all standing tough against it...rightly so...


33 posted on 07/14/2011 12:57:25 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Thane_Banquo

I think if the McConnell plan passed”

Ok, no disagreement...but what about the chaos that would ensue the moment that Obama announces that he has accepted the McConnell plan, then McConnell/Reid/Pelosi start whipping votes to make it pass.

Then, you have the Tea Party at war against the GOP and the Dems. Whether it passes at that point (it might well fail) becomes sort of immaterial, because at that point, Obama has won. He has divided the GOP against itself, he, again, looks like the adult because he offered a compromise put forth by the Senate Minority Leader, only to have it killed by the Tea Party.

So...if that happens, he STILL doesn’t have to do anything, he has divided the GOP, his base is satisfied, and he is re-elected. AND the GOP loses the House, because teh Tea Party will punish the GOP mightily.

That’s sort of the danger I see in leaving this on the table. Though I agree that Obama doesn’t want it to pass....but he could bluff and that would be like setting off a nuke in the GOP caucus.

Am I wrong here? What am I missing?


34 posted on 07/14/2011 12:57:40 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: FrankR
What I took away from it was, the President would set the ceiling and if congress didn't like it they could vote it down with a 2/3rd's vote.

As I understand McConnell's proposal, Obama's cuts would be approved or rejected in the House on a simple majority basis through the appropriations process. Only a reversal of the debt ceiling increase would require a 2/3rds majority.

35 posted on 07/14/2011 12:58:37 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Thane_Banquo

I think Obama and Reid want no deal as it pleases the liberal base and will end up in a government shut down Obama and the Democrats will spin as the Republican’s fault. Obama has already said granny won’t get her check and meals for kids will stop. We on the right will get killed by public opinion as the public drinks the cool aide of mass media and Jay Leno jokes. Better to hang the out of control spending and inflation around Obama’s neck to win big in 11/2012.


36 posted on 07/14/2011 1:11:37 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Siena Dreaming
"The McConnell plan isn’t the best but it will work and even with that Obama gets the short end of the stick because he will HAVE to come up with cuts."

How real will the cuts be? Obama gets an immediate increase in the debt ceiling and propose cuts that would take place over time. The last time we tried this, tens of billions turned into a few hundred million after Boehner signed off on it.

37 posted on 07/14/2011 2:39:48 PM PDT by Truth29
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