Posted on 07/13/2011 5:09:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
Edited on 07/13/2011 6:03:46 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
It looks like the Gaystapo is really up in arms over my recent series of articles on Cisco’s firing of Frank Turek. I can tell because I’m starting to get emails from them that are full of ALL CAPS – not to mention intentional misunderstanding of the central moral and legal issues I’ve been discussing. The following, which was posted on a homosexual website and then sent to my private email address, is illustrative:
How many times does this have to be explained before people finally figure out how the freedom of speech works? The freedom of speech is NOT a freedom from consequences. Your constitutional rights are ONLY protected from GOVERNMENT intervention. That’s it. The freedom of speech ONLY exists to protect you from the government stepping in an [sic] telling you what you can and can’t say.
Private companies and private citizens are not the government.
If (Frank Turek) had been arrested for what he said then yes, it’s a free speech case. If Cisco was entirely funded by tax payer dollars thus making them an extension of state or federal government then yes, it would be a free speech case. Neither occurred. It is not a free speech case.
Most companies, especially those that deal with sensitive information like Cisco, have very strict policies about how employees conduct themselves online in their free time. And your [sic] patently wrong that there’s “no evidence that Turek’s extracurricular activities affected his work with Cisco and its employees in the least” because the initial complaint was made by someone who attended one of his seminars. An employee complained about another employee. So yes… there is evidence that it affected Cisco employees because that’s where the complaint came from.
Sorry for getting a bit ranty but I am sick to (deleted) death of homophobes trying to hide behind free speech as if it’s this magic stupidity shield that makes it ok to be a moron.
This is one of the rare times I agree with a member of the Gaystapo. In fact, his “ranty” missive is right in two important respects:
1. The Frank Turek case is not about the First Amendment. That is why we have never asserted that it is about the First Amendment. It is about tolerance and the manner in which employees treat one another. Even a blind homosexual, like a blind squirrel, occasionally finds a nut – although, in this case, I should probably say “acorn.”
2. Private speech does have consequences. When you express yourself in the court of public opinion, people may well be angered by what you say. Consequently, they might not want to work with you. I suppose that even a broken homosexual, like a broken clock, is right twice a day.
The fact that Cisco Systems has angered many people with its speech – in the form of one-sided homosexual activism – is clearly exacerbating its current financial woes. In fact, Fox News is reporting that Cisco is considering slashing as many as 10,000 jobs as it struggles to recoup from recent market losses.
Furthermore, according to Bloomberg News, Cisco is mulling cutting as many as 7,000 spots by the end of August. The 10,000 figure represents one-seventh of its total workforce. Cisco, which is the world’ largest networking-equipment maker, is also providing early-retirement packages to several thousand workers. There have been no indications as to whether Cisco will consider employee stance on the issue of same-sex marriage when making the proposed workforce cuts.
Regardless, these potential job cuts come after Cisco suffered an 18% decline in fiscal third-quarter earnings and revealed plans for $1 billion in cost reductions amid a weaker-than-expected outlook for the current quarter. This significant decline coincided with the public controversy concerning the Turek firing – a quarter during which CEO John Chambers received thousands of letters of protest concerning Cisco’s policies of inclusion and diversity. The company’s shares have declined 23.7% year-to-date and lost nearly one-third of their value over the past 52 weeks. Yet there is no indication whether Cisco will now take time off from firing Christians for their religious beliefs and instead devote their time to regaining the confidence of their shareholders.
I’m sorry for getting a bit ranty but I am sick to death of the Gaystapo trying to hide behind free speech. It’s not a magic stupidity shield that makes it okay to function as a company full of sanctimonious hypocrites. No one wants to do business with a company like that. And it’s not really a First Amendment issue.
THITHCO!
I caught the tail end of a story on the local news this morning. Looks like the Gaystapo is back to flooding into Michigan churches to protest during Sunday morning services.
The italics should end after the word “moron” in the post above. The current placement is rather confusing.
you thaid it.
yes and have you heard how their fortunes are so rosy, proving that there's no such thing as karma? /s
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but marriage licenses in New York have been changed to replace Bride and Groom with Spouse A and Spouse B. So marriage is changed for straight couples already. I would expect some couples who are attuned to this to marry in a state that still records “real” marriages.
The homo lobby has been wildly successful in turning what was once widely considered to be a sexual perversion engaged in by people with a form of mental illness into a highly protected minority with numerous legal rights and a growing social acceptance. That a private multinational company would feel free to retaliate against an employee that opposed what he obviously considers a sexual perversion is a bit frightening. That the homo lobby would attack anyone, such as Mike Adams, that opposes Cisco’s outrageous mishandling of this situation is axiomatic. Fortunately, Mike Adams has a public megaphone and has proven himself quite capable of handling the opposition. Go, Mike!
That't the most important part to the Gaystapo.
Please take the time to remove profanity from articles. Thanks.
thats gonna leave a mark...thanks kaslin...
We’re going down the drain giving special privileges to gaysbians and muslims, when both are enemies of civilization!!!!
Actually it is a free speech issue if the issue is looked at in totality as to the nature of government involvement in the work place. The fact of the matter is that there is large scale government interference in the workplace in regards to free speech. In my state of New Jersey there are laws ordering companies to respect certain types of speech in regards to favoring homosexuality and to punish those who oppose it. This is the agenda and atmosphere of the left-wing’s involvement with government on this issue.
The left-wing is seeking and has been successful in many cases to outlaw any moral position they oppose in all workplaces and in effect impose by law their perverted morality. Cisco may not have acted as a result of government intervention but they are doing what they are doing as part of a larger agenda that does involve government intervention in regulating speech. I am sure if there was a case of a company firing someone for their support of the fascist homosexual agenda anywhere in the country the left-wing would be up in arms about as a ‘rights’ issue.
Private companies and private citizens are not the government.If (Frank Turek) had been arrested for what he said then yes, it’s a free speech case. If Cisco was entirely funded by tax payer dollars thus making them an extension of state or federal government then yes, it would be a free speech case. Neither occurred. It is not a free speech case.
Most companies, especially those that deal with sensitive information like Cisco, have very strict policies about how employees conduct themselves online in their free time. And your [sic] patently wrong that there’s “no evidence that Turek’s extracurricular activities affected his work with Cisco and its employees in the least” because the initial complaint was made by someone who attended one of his seminars. An employee complained about another employee. So yes… there is evidence that it affected Cisco employees because that’s where the complaint came from.
Sorry for getting a bit ranty but I am sick to (deleted) death of homophobes trying to hide behind free speech as if it’s this magic stupidity shield that makes it ok to be a moron.
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” CEO John Chambers received thousands of letters of protest concerning Cisco’s policies of inclusion and diversity.”
Diversity is where nations go to die.
Mark Steyn
“I caught the tail end of a story on the local news this morning. Looks like the Gaystapo is back to flooding into Michigan churches to protest during Sunday morning services.”
Keep them out. Whatever it takes.
“proving that there’s no such thing as karma? /s”
At the checkout the other day it felt like I was surrounded by flaming queens and diesel dykes, so I started grumbling about a tabloid that screamed, “Who’s (a sodomite) and Who’s Not.”
The clerk agreed that children shouldn’t be seeing it. As I walked away, I said something to him about “those people” having no idea how bloody the backlash was going to be.
The silence as I walked away was so deep it was actually noise-canceling, like Bose headphones. If I did’t give them something to think about, I hope I at least scared the piss out of them.
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