No doubt they will. The counter argument is that said state is not refusing to accept Hawaii’s document, Hawaii is just refusing to produce the CORRECT document, one known to be in their possession. They will further correctly argue that until very recently, Hawaii itself would not accept the document they are now attempting to foist off on other states. I am willing to bet a Judge will tell Hawaii to bring the original to court so he can look at it, then tell them that they will have to admit it as evidence in the proceeding. Or do you know of a reason why Hawaii would refuse a Federal judge?
Once declared evidence, said state will be able to examine it and the whole issue goes away. (If it is all legit) The very idea that a Presidential candidate should be permitted to withhold his actual proof of eligibility is ludicrous. We should not even be having this discussion. Again, it is the tail wagging the dog.
Full faith and credit means that whatever Hawaii says is an official birth record in their state is accepted in every other state plus the federal government.
Hawaii COLBs are valid for passports and every other official purpose.
There have been well over 100 judges who have presided over pre-trial and trial hearings and appeals for Obama eligiblity lawsuits. No judge or panel of justices has requested that Hawaii present an original birth certificate.
I just don’t see that happening. If either Obama’s attorneys or a plaintiff suing Obama’s attorneys want to get a court order for a copy of the original document, that is permissible under Hawaii law.
Zero’s position is that he is the first candidate to ever place a copy of his birth certificate on the web and its been there since April of 2008. If anybody wants to see it, click a mouse. And now if anyone wants to see a copy of his long form, go to whitehouse.gov
It's up to we the people to toss this arrogant contemptuous petulant smug little prick out of the White House.
They are *NOW*. They were NOT then. You overlook the strength of this argument. Hawaii is put into the position of having to argue that a document it previously considered inadequate for it's own use, must now be accepted by everyone else because THEY SAY SO. You are putting the "change by whim" policy of Hawaii over the constitutional obligation to secure the truth. Any Judge that thinks a State Bureaucrat ought to be able to decide The Nation's qualification's for President on their say so, is an IDIOT. (Probably a Clinton or Carter appointee. Those are ALL idiots.)
There have been well over 100 judges who have presided over pre-trial and trial hearings and appeals for Obama eligiblity lawsuits. No judge or panel of justices has requested that Hawaii present an original birth certificate. I just don’t see that happening. If either Obama’s attorneys or a plaintiff suing Obama’s attorneys want to get a court order for a copy of the original document, that is permissible under Hawaii law.
The Judges have blocked every attempt to get the matter into court by asserting the ridiculous notion that No individual citizen is injured by a false President. These activities convince me that they are DESPERATE to avoid this issue, mainly because they are terrified of where it will lead. By the way, Hawaiian law says a birth certificate can be provided to any election official who requests it for the purpose of an election. Of course if the state won't certified it as original, that is a pointless exercise.
Zero’s position is that he is the first candidate to ever place a copy of his birth certificate on the web and its been there since April of 2008. If anybody wants to see it, click a mouse. And now if anyone wants to see a copy of his long form, go to whitehouse.gov
And neither one will tell you that you are seeing the real thing. THAT is the entire problem. Hawaii WILL NOT assure anyone that what they are seeing is genuine. They keep certifying it with lawyer "cop-out" words rather than a punishable by perjury statement. Till someone puts their neck on the line and claims under penalty of law that it is a "true and correct copy of the original record..." as far as i'm concerned they are wasting everyone's time. Proof that isn't proof is useless.