Posted on 07/11/2011 5:06:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
Agreed. I'd be putting shame to a whole flock of Canaries. I just hope this guy knows not to go anywhere near Fort Marcy Park.
Agreed. I'd be putting shame to a whole flock of Canaries. I just hope this guy knows not to go anywhere near Fort Marcy Park.
Caution: anything that Zbigniew Brzezinski is involved in is very suspect. I despise him.
This is not the source where I first read about it, but is much the same.
Khalid Al Mansour definitely has a connection to Obozo. Long term connection.
can you elaborate. The guy is pinning it on the CIA. So are you saying the CIA is trying to deflect from the White House?
This is a VERY murky world to say the least...the appearrenc e of “Mike Levine” who is assuredly “Former deep undercover DEA agent...” (if there really is such a person) merely signifies great, deep turmoil in the alphabet agencies about Holder/Obama
see here for the yucky stuff....
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/07/obamas-coke-pipeline.html
Mike is for real
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Levine_%28DEA%29
could be...its a VERY murky world out there...google “mockingbird” if you want more info on the organization of disinformation in America.
What did I try to tell you?
And what was the date of Ogden’s speech, eh??? March 2009????? So six months later Gunwalker is put into effect?
Ogden’s speech is not proof that Holder perjured himself nor is the funding in the stimulus bill. This is what the two guys who broke this story keep trying to tell people
You don’t know at what point and just who ordered these guns to walk.
You have to have more evidence.
So far, there is none in the public. As for the October 2009 date, I haven’t seen that confirmed anywhere, yet. But it makes sense.
My personal opinion is that he lied...but I think CIA trumped all and this was a botched CIA gig.
My post said nothing about Ogden’s speech.
To: RummyChick
Oh, and the statements made by Ogden and Holder about funding and specific personnel increases were definitely specific enough to identify them as being a part of F&F. What the personnel makeup was under Bush was doesnt mean a thing regarding Ogden and Holders statements made in 2009 when 0bama was President.
19 posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 12:07:26 AM by TigersEye
Almost nothing has been confirmed if you are speaking of testimony under oath or documentation. But the following timeline is one of a few statements reported in the press that F&F began in Sept. '09.
Gun-Running Timeline: How DOJs Operation Fast and Furious UnfoldedOperation Fast and Furious Timeline:
September 2009 Jan. 8, 2010: A Jan. 8, 2010 briefing paper from the ATF Phoenix Field Division Group VII says: This investigation has currently identified more than 20 individual connected straw purchasers. It further says: To date (September 2009 present) this group has purchased in excess of 650 firearms (mainly AK-47 variants) for which they have paid cash totaling more than $350,000.
I don't suppose a briefing paper from the ATF Phoenix Field Division is what you call proof but it seems like enough to bring into the discussion to me.
You responded to post #29 so I thought you were referring to that information.
I think someone said that was about the time that some reports say that Zetas broke off from the Gulf Cartel.
I have seen reports that did it in early March and other reports that it wasn’t until 2010.
But it doesnt really matter because we were supplying them to all the Cartels.
I don't know what that means or what is has to do with when F&F was initiated.
The Drug Wars is what this is really all about.
This isn’t just about trying to curtail 2nd Amendment rights.
This is about Chaos and the Drug Cartels.
Okey dokey.
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