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To: RINOs suck

When you personally speak for Christians everywhere, resent it all you want. Until such time as Christianity nominates you as their leader, deal with the fact that some of us interpret the Bible in a different way than you do.

Bachmann brought her personal religious belief into the public square so don’t be so shocked that others may not particularly agree with it. If her husband is leading her ‘household’ then he is de-facto in charge of the country should his wife become President.

Palin isn’t publicly claiming to be submissive to her husband as a way to garner favor with rural Christian America. No sense speculating on ‘what if’ in this instance since SP never put herself in Bachmann’s position.


160 posted on 07/09/2011 10:05:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart; RINOs suck

Norm, I think it is a mistake to conflate household authority structure with the exercise of public authority. Reformed theologian Abraham Kuyper, who is still of some reputation in Iowa’s Christian/Dutch Reformed circles, gave us a notation by which to understand it, called the spheres of influence.

Picture it as a three-dimensional Venn diagram. The Family sphere is authority exercised within the family and its jurisdiction is limited only to tings that concern the family as a family. Where any member of the family is a civil officer, that sphere of influence, the Civil sphere, overlaps the Family sphere, but only partially. That is, there are things which still are only under family jurisdiction, but the civil jurisdiction can reach both outward to any appropriate civil task outside the family, and inward to any family task that falls under civil jurisdiction.

In other words, MB or SP could easily regard their husbands as the head of their home, and at the same time command their husband’s obedience under the civil authority on such things as are properly under that authority, and this on the premise that God has granted both authorities, and cannot contradict Himself. And I haven’t even gotten to ecclesiastical authority. So in this respect, there really is no conflict between the Biblical order for households versus the civil magistrate, even when one individual lives in both spheres. It’s a nonissue in the more well-informed segment of Iowa’s reformed community.


166 posted on 07/09/2011 10:34:17 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Palin isn’t publicly claiming to be submissive to her husband as a way to garner favor with rural Christian America.

So, you think it would be smart for her to publicly denounce the Bible and say she doesn't agree with it?

204 posted on 07/10/2011 12:32:36 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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