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Retirement Fund Plunder Update: $206 Billion So Far, $62 Billion Left
zh ^ | 07/07/2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 07/08/2011 7:05:54 AM PDT by george76

the Treasury has plundered about $206 billion from the two primary retirement accounts: the G-Fund and the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund...

there is about $62 billion in available debt ceiling stretching options. In other words, Tim Geithner has burned through 75% of his dry powder just 50 days into the debt ceiling breach. What happens in the next few days ...Treasury would need to use about $37 billion of that $62 billion in July, and would exhaust the rest with the settlement of auctions on August 1.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: retirement; retirementaccounts; treasury; unexpected
Cash balance in the (alledged) trust fund is ZERO.

IOUs are not cash.

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1 posted on 07/08/2011 7:06:01 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

So, they’ve run out of other people’s money. Now what? Fat cat Federal retirees going to swarm DC? The flights from FL and the nice suburbs of VA will be extremely full!


2 posted on 07/08/2011 7:22:09 AM PDT by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: george76

As Lady Thatcher so accurately said, “The problem with liberalism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples’ money.”..................


3 posted on 07/08/2011 7:26:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: Red Badger

Get ready


4 posted on 07/08/2011 7:30:55 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

After they have plundered the government employees retirement funds, they’ll come after the 401ks, IRAs and Keoghs............


5 posted on 07/08/2011 7:32:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: poobear

Crossroads GPS: “Wake Up”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESAszBVMnC4&feature=player_embedded


6 posted on 07/08/2011 7:33:46 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Nice video. Someone better wake up soon! We are teetering on ground they’ve never planned for. Or maybe they have...


7 posted on 07/08/2011 7:38:33 AM PDT by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: Red Badger

FDR sent in federal agents to check safe deposit boxes at banks for gold.

No telling how much loot FDR found.

Plus the Argentina government raid on personal accounts


8 posted on 07/08/2011 7:40:43 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
No pension, union, public or private is safe from gub'mint lies and false promises.

Play ball with these goobers and they'll shove the bat up your arse.

The Great Beast is insatiable.

9 posted on 07/08/2011 7:40:50 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: poobear

sensibly speaking, these funds being “borrowed” to fund the govt are the contributory retirement accounts of many many lower grade govt workers

we are watching a repeat of the looting of the so-called social security trust fund (lockbox) only in fast forward

when they run out of money from our 401Ks, they will come after yours


10 posted on 07/08/2011 8:13:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: george76

I am confused. The Thrift Savings Plan is a non governmental agency. The money in thrift is about 66 percent employee funded and about 34 percent government matching funds. Once the money is in the Thrift Savings Plan it is the plan holders money to invest as he sees fit.

Please elucidate on this topic.


11 posted on 07/08/2011 8:39:27 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: cpdiii
Here's what happening right from the horses mouth:

TSP explanation

I can't make heads or tails of it.

12 posted on 07/08/2011 8:50:42 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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To: cpdiii

Most of these comments are horse malarky, written by people who know nothing of the federal employees’ retirement system. Take it from me, a retired fed: federal retiree funds are safe.


13 posted on 07/08/2011 9:06:53 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Thanks.

The way I interpet this is that Thrift can no longer invest any new monies in the G Fund due to the fact that the Treasury has no G Fund securites to sell due to the debt ceiling.

I think I have this right?


14 posted on 07/08/2011 9:08:27 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Poundstone
Take it from me, a retired fed: federal retiree funds are safe.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.....stop it....you're killing me!

The only thing anyone needs to know about the Federal system is that it's Federal. They can yank it from you any damn time they want to and you won't be able to do jack sh** about it.

L

15 posted on 07/08/2011 9:10:33 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: cpdiii
That's correct. The G Fund is a goverment bond fund in the family of TSP options. What they propose is to suspend new purchases of bonds due to the debt limit but will still pay the interest due on new deposits as if the bonds were there.
16 posted on 07/08/2011 10:40:53 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lurker

You forget, Lurker, that unlike state governments, the federal government can simply print more money if necessary to meet its pension obligations.


17 posted on 07/08/2011 11:06:12 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone
the federal government can simply print more money if necessary to meet its pension obligations.

You have no idea just how badly I hope they do exactly that to people like you. None whatsoever.

18 posted on 07/08/2011 11:45:14 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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