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Should We Abolish the Jury System?
Townhall.com ^ | July 6, 2011 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 07/06/2011 6:32:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: cripplecreek

Yes, jurors have a lot more rights than they know. However, judges have WAAAAAYYYY too much power in this country.


181 posted on 07/06/2011 12:03:43 PM PDT by DrewsMum (There is no other NAME whereby we may be saved....JESUS!)
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To: D-fendr
You cannot prove the death was not an accident.

Let's use what I said without running it through a veg-o-matic, shall we?

In the absence of a forensic determination of time and cause of death, it cannot be proven that she was put in the trunk while alive, nor can it be determined that she died as the result of a malicious act.

If....

Big little word, "if".

The bottom line is that the prosecution could not prove the cause of death.

We can suspect, we can even believe, but in the absence of proof, we don't know.

The prosecution failed to make its case, and the jury did what it should have.

Had the prosecution brought other charges which could have been proven, perhaps there would have been a conviction on those.

182 posted on 07/06/2011 12:06:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: DrewsMum
No...He told his mistress that he was married but that his wife had died the year before (IIRC). This was well before he killed her. So what he said didn't prove anything.

They never proved when, where or how Lacey died.

183 posted on 07/06/2011 12:12:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: screaminsunshine

You seriously need a sarcasm tag. I know, it seems ridiculous sometimes, but after some of the comments I’ve seen by so called Constitution loving FReepers the last 2 days, it’s important to tag it, so we know who the hypocrites are and who the ones merely mocking them are....


184 posted on 07/06/2011 12:17:38 PM PDT by DrewsMum (There is no other NAME whereby we may be saved....JESUS!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
31 days missing and all the lies takes away reasonable doubt...The jury didn't get it.

A good mother???: How long would it take you to notify authorities if youyr kid was missing?

I saw a video where Casey was talking to her parents...I watched Casey's face change...She has a vicious temper!!

185 posted on 07/06/2011 12:19:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Tax-chick
Oh, absolutely. Because one jury believed a prosecutor hadn’t proved a case beyond a reasonable doubt, we should replace trial by jury with trial by Ben Shapiro, the Philosopher-King. That’ll assure justice for all.

Thanks, tax-chick. 

What bothers me about the hulabaloo about this verdict is that people in general are so incredibly ignorant about the legal system, how it works, and what court decisions they should really be paying attention to. 

186 posted on 07/06/2011 1:23:30 PM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: Kaslin

“Should We Abolish the Jury System?”

Another attack on the Constitution. These attacks come about every other day, it seems!


187 posted on 07/06/2011 3:45:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Another attack on the Constitution. These attacks come about every other day, it seems!

Why would this be an attack on the Constitution? The author is just asking a question and does not say that it should be abolished. What he suggest is, that it should be revamped

The answer doesn't lie in abolishing the jury system utterly, but in revamping it completely. (Twelfth paragraph)

188 posted on 07/06/2011 4:04:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

I wonder if we shouldn’t add a ‘not proven’ verdict to our system.


189 posted on 07/06/2011 4:16:30 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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To: Tax-chick

Correct. I guess Ben should have went to the police himself and gave them all that evidence he must have to know, for a fact, his contention is true.


190 posted on 07/06/2011 4:21:22 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Mitt Romney makes Nelson Rockefeller look like Ronald Reagan. NO MITT 2012.)
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To: Kaslin

Abolish. Funny to see the defenders of the Constitution, or rather the parts of the Constitution they like. What about the right to a speedy trial? What about a jury of one’s “peers”. Conveniently ignored. This case, the O.J. case, the Amirault cases, many others we never hear of, point to the obsolescence of the jury system. In the Anthony case the jurors themselves should have been convicted of criminal negligence.


191 posted on 07/06/2011 4:24:15 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: freespirited

Do I think she is guilty? Yes. Did the prosecution prove her guilty? No.


192 posted on 07/06/2011 7:16:24 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Steve_Seattle
You sound like a democrat.

This Nation is ruled by laws, not opinions.

The jury did not find her "innocent", they said they could not find sufficient proof to find her guilty.

193 posted on 07/07/2011 3:46:49 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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