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The REAL War - How To Be a Front Line Patriot and Make a REAL Difference
Vanity | 7/1/2011 | Robroy

Posted on 07/01/2011 10:38:22 AM PDT by RobRoy

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I believe that the next 12 months will determine what this country will be for the foreseeable future. I've seen the internet slowly take power from the MSM, but it is happening way too slowly. We can, if in reasonable numbers, cause this thing to absolutely explode as a major force in the war of ideas being waged right now in the electronic media.

And this new media is the equivalent of the aircraft carrier at the beginning of WWII in the pacific. It is what will make the difference.

1 posted on 07/01/2011 10:38:30 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy

Perhaps a list of such sites would be useful. I’ve been thinking along the same lines you have, but I don’t tend to wander into many corners of the internet, so, aside from DU (which doesn’t fit your definition of a neutral site) I wouldn’t really know where to go.


2 posted on 07/01/2011 10:56:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: RobRoy

Good Post; Glad you did this!

Yeah, I think your use of the term “Hunker Down” is about right!

Lately, I too, have noticed a backsliding in previous enthusiasm of Restore the Republic, Take Our Country Back, etc.

Dunno if it’s just the calm before the storm, or a general burnout...or something else...

In any case, I see it in the general writings online, both volume and tone, of the professional journalists (real journalists), bloggers, posters/responders on forums, etc.

It’s something few talk about, few, if any, respond to.

It may be a somewhat less than conscious response to propaganda put out by gubmint a few months ago requesting “cooperation” in slowing down the anti-gubmint stuff online.
Could “the folks be “running scared” on that bs?

Something to think about.


3 posted on 07/01/2011 11:03:02 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: RobRoy

I love your warrior heart and I share some, if not most, of your sentiments.

I have only one criticism.

We can’t rely on the Republican Party or a Republican president to be our savior.

If President Obama was struck down by a bolt of lightening or if we are able to elect a Republican president, the fact is the entire infrastructure of liberalism will stay deeply entrenched in almost every single institution from the local level to the federal level.

On top of that, liberal civil society, the non-governmental parts, like unions, lobbies, media and non-profits, are still powerful.

At the local level, I try to fight, but it is hard.

One thing I have discovered in this fight, however, is that liberals, while very organized, are incredibly stupid and/or brainwashed.

It is almost impossible to have a discussion with a true believer.

Liberals truly believe that 2 + 2 = 5, because that is what Big Brother told them is true.

So where do we go from here?

We only have two choices: We surrender or take back every institution in America.

I’m cynical that conservatives have the fortitude to fight liberalism.

Liberalism is a pernicious evil and unless we act in concert, which goes against our individualistic instincts, we are pretty much doomed.


4 posted on 07/01/2011 11:03:09 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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“4. Ask honest questions. It shows sincerity and makes them feel they are actually being listened to. You can not only turn lurkers around with this tactic, but sometimes the person you are sparring with as well. You also more accurately address their points with your own.”

This is probably the best point of all of them, for many reasons:

- It makes it seem as if you are genuinely trying to be open minded.

- It effectively hides your attack.

- It doesn’t necessarily give you away as a conservative, so if you are attacked, you simply reiterate that you aren’t partisan, but merely asking questions to inform yourself.

- It gives you the opportunity to lead people to conclusions by their own words, rather than browbeating them. After all, if you get the answers you want, it would be THEM saying it, not you. You can easily get them to hang themselves with their own rope this way.

- It makes you seem civil, especially if you keep your cool.

Some of my friends and I used to run a website that parodied the animal rights people...we had a message board and a guest book, and weren’t afraid of honest, unmoderated discussion. You can literally get people to see almost any point you wish if you ask the right questions, and if you maintain your composure, they’ll have no reason to get angry at you...after all, you were just asking questions.

That doesn’t mean you’ll change their minds, but it is always good to introduce that dissonance to them. And, if others are watching, then all the better.


5 posted on 07/01/2011 11:04:01 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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>>Perhaps a list of such sites would be useful.<<

I discovered that one way is to search youtube for phrases like “palin” coupled with “stupid” or “idiot”. Also, search youtube for “it gets better” regarding the homosexual agenda.

And many of the articles posted here with some sort of “barf alert” will include comments being made by lots of liberals that agree with them. Bring them back to reality with your comments.

That is the type of stuff I do.


6 posted on 07/01/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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>>I have only one criticism.

We can’t rely on the Republican Party or a Republican president to be our savior.<<

Well, you’ll notice I didn’t mention the republican party. I consider them a half a notch about the democrats. i.e. Romney? Please!


7 posted on 07/01/2011 11:18:09 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

I agree with your fight back mentality.
I would add,
— Don’t patronize known liberal support companies -
GE, GM, IBM to name a few. Don’t buy their stock and
don’t buy their products.
— Inform companies that advertise on unsavory/biased media
that you will not purchase their products and why. It
does little good to complain directly to msnbc or
comedy central.
Never shy away from respectfully disputing liberal drivel in public. Most germs die when exposed to sunlight.


8 posted on 07/01/2011 11:24:06 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>>I wouldn’t really know where to go.<<

Any time you see a barf alert on an article posted here, go there. If there is a comments section there is a good chance it is swarmed by liberals. Join the fight.


9 posted on 07/01/2011 11:36:01 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m doing it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxBuNCpfWAk

It’s pretty easy to figure out which one is me. I refuse to go away.


10 posted on 07/01/2011 12:01:32 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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Nice set of rules. Perfect for rational, civilized people. Too bad that our enemies have no respect for them. Now what?


11 posted on 07/01/2011 12:34:10 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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We only have two choices: We surrender or take back every institution in America.

I agree. Now, contemplate the true cost of the latter decision. I have.

12 posted on 07/01/2011 12:35:41 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Perhaps a list of such sites would be useful. I’ve been thinking along the same lines you have, but I don’t tend to wander into many corners of the internet, so, aside from DU (which doesn’t fit your definition of a neutral site) I wouldn’t really know where to go.

The list is right here!

Most articles that people post on this site have their own comment section - that's where the message needs to go out to - those neutral or seemingly neutral sites.

Posting here among friends and like minded people enforce our positions but we are not typing to a mixed crowd here, we aren't typing to a neutral crowd.

I'm on other sites where we post articles of interest - we go in there to the linked article comment sections and post away, that's where the general public is reading....that's where you knock on societies door and say "Hello, this is my understanding - this is really going on - this is my research - this is the other side of the coin"

Free Republic is the best site around to post and comment to like minded conservatives - but our primary goal should be to spread and strengthen our words not only among ourselves but to the whole world.

You also want to get onto your local newspaper message boards, if they are active. You know your area, you know the landscape, if you aren't in there fighting for the conservative cause you are dropping the ball and missing the local battles right outside your window. It is of utmost importance to act and write locally, the liberals/progressive do it - local boards are littered with them - that's pure community changing activity - don't miss that battle.

13 posted on 07/01/2011 12:40:46 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Dept. of Life, Dept. of Liberty and the Dept. of Happiness)
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To: Noumenon

When I think about the odds we are up against, and when I get to the point of resignation, I think about our Founding Fathers and their sacrifices.

How long did it take to win the American Revolution against the might of the British Empire?

I think if every conservative read the Declaration of Independence and took it to heart, we can win this war.

I also think of all the young men who went to war and died to defend foreign freedom.

The “true cost” we face is minuscule in comparison to defend our freedom at home.


14 posted on 07/01/2011 12:53:37 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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All your tactical suggestions are good. None of us should give up the fight as the left never sleeps and the left ignores defeats and keeps on coming.

We have to keep on coming too. The left does back off when opposed, I’ve seen how when about 10 or 20 of us conservatives show up at a school board meeting to discuss an issue such as giving the teacher’s union an overly generous contract provision that the board will back off and drop or modify what we came to talk about. Sure, the left will try to bring it up at a later time, but then we have to show up again. It’s the same at every level of politics, we have to keep showing up and promoting conservative results.


15 posted on 07/01/2011 12:54:19 PM PDT by RicocheT
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>>Too bad that our enemies have no respect for them. Now what?<<

You just keep going forward with them anyway.


16 posted on 07/01/2011 1:24:59 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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The fate of the signers of the Declaration was not kind. The problem as I see it is that hardly anyone care to contemplate the true cost of restoring our Republic. To be blunt, it’s a butcher’s bill, payable in fire and blood. Our enemies have left us no other recourse.


17 posted on 07/01/2011 1:30:20 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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You just keep going forward with them anyway.

Sorry to appear obtuse, but exactly how does that work when dealing with the malignantly narcissistic, hate-filled irrationalism that animates so many of our enemies?

And when that psychosis turns murderous - as history clearly shows that it will - what then?

18 posted on 07/01/2011 1:38:29 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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Maybe you haven’t noticed, but Glenn Beck is attempting exactly that. I have never understood the hatred of him on this forum, he is taking his fight to the enemy and putting everything he owns at risk, anyone here willing to do that?


19 posted on 07/01/2011 4:51:36 PM PDT by itsahoot (I Stand with Sarah Palin)
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To: RobRoy

Liberals do not run on logic. They run on emotion.


20 posted on 07/02/2011 7:38:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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