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Is the British roundabout conquering the US?
BBC News ^ | 30th June 2011 | Tom Geoghegan

Posted on 07/01/2011 9:59:00 AM PDT by the scotsman

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To: ken5050

Sounds like they should have put up stands so people could watch and bet on the accidents!

Does Bubbba still have a place up by you?


121 posted on 07/01/2011 4:17:03 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82
Yeah, I've been on 37 heading into Seaside Hgts. There are some bad ones on 72 heading into LBI, on that stretch between the Parkway and the causeway bridge, through Manahawkin. My Mom used to live in Beach Haven West. I'd have to ride down Bay Avenue to avoid that one by Morris Blvd. The short length of the turn-off access road meant you'd get backups, especially on changeover day (Sat.) during the summer. As much as I loved the Jersey Shore beach, traffic was the pits. The only thing worse were those rotaries on Rt. 70 going towards Cherry Hill and Philly. Gave me the shakes by the end of the trip.
122 posted on 07/01/2011 4:49:05 PM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

Chimera, I am sitting here nodding my head in agreement to all you said.

If you can drive in Joisey, you can drive anywhere!


123 posted on 07/01/2011 4:51:15 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82
One other benefit here—unless you are going to commit an error that will kill or maim you, no one beeps their horn at you. That is considered “bad form”.

I don't think I could handle that. I couldn't get by without blowing it out on some idiot driver. It's a great stress reliever, blows off steam that might otherwise be channeled into road rage. When I was a teenager back in the Jerz, I added a PA speaker to supplement the horn, so not only could I blow them off, but give them an earful as well. Ah, the crazy things we do when we're young...:-)

124 posted on 07/01/2011 4:56:40 PM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

Well, as one who has driven in New Jersey, you know that hornblowing is another skillset that has to be acquired.

There are rules, you know!!

It took a few months of acclimation, but folks here are patient with you, and more often than not, will stop to allow you to turn left if there is traffice.

People here also wave a lot, whether or not they even know you. It is the neighborly thing to do.

Now you KNOW that is not allowed in NJ!!!!


125 posted on 07/01/2011 5:01:04 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82
You got that right. You wave at someone while driving and you take your life in your hands. My Dad almost got beat up once for waving. The other guy thought he was being flipped off. I had a friend in high school who got arrested and thrown in jail for waving at a cop with his open hand, fingers spread out. The cop thought he was thumbing his nose at him. The rule in the Jerz definitely is, keep your hands down while driving.

Sounds like the folks in DE are a bit more genteel in their driving habits. Must be the "rural" environment.

126 posted on 07/01/2011 5:41:31 PM PDT by chimera
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To: 9YearLurker

Yeah, but the Concord Rotary is a major bottleneck. I drive miles out of my way on side streets to avoid it. Five streams of traffic converge there. They could replace it with a traffic light, easily.


127 posted on 07/01/2011 6:18:00 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: clintonh8r

Roundabouts are a great way to keep traffice flowing. We go to the UK every year or so, and I’m now accustomed to driving them, but I don’t see them catching on in the US. They require a certain amount discipline and skill that most American drivers lack.

I disagree. We have a number of them in our state and are developing more each year. Great for rural roads and are well used and liked. American drivers in our state are pretty disiplined and able to manage them.


128 posted on 07/01/2011 6:21:15 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: RichInOC

XTC - English Roundabout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akrD84P_zxU


129 posted on 07/01/2011 6:21:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: clintonh8r
Roundabouts are a great way to keep traffic flowing....

....s-l-o-w-l-e-y!

Limited access highways are a great way to keep traffic moving quickly, with minimal slowdowns. Usually.

The locals were talking about taking two 4-6 lane 45 mph roads that presently enjoy an older highway-style interchange, and turning that interchange into a traffic circle (roundabout). Presently, people that are heading straight generally maintain 45-55 mph on both roads. With a Roundabout, that would slow to a crawl as the massive amount of traffic had to yield and negotiate to get a position on the circle. We don't need more impediments to movement, we need fewer.

130 posted on 07/01/2011 7:00:25 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Hunton Peck
Just pretend you’re a NASCAR driver on a really tiny track.

That's just about right, though I prefer to pretend I'm an open-wheel driver on a tiny track. I don't want to rub paint with my car. Maybe with the truck though, since it's 7 years old and BIG!

Basically, I attack them with reckless abandon, timing and choosing the gap and charging in. Yield means "pick your spot" to me, though to many, it means "stop and look like an idiot".

131 posted on 07/01/2011 7:13:07 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: chimera

Is it a circle, rotary, or roundabout? I can’t tell.

Looks like a mess to me.


132 posted on 07/01/2011 7:17:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
We’ve been trying to get rid of the Concord Rotary for decades. My Tom-tom calls it a rotary, but Tom-Tom’s U.S. office about a quarter mile from the Concord Rotary. What do they call it outside of Massachusetts? In the UK, it’s a “roundabout”. What is it in Iowa?

They were called rotaries since the beginning. Naming them roundabouts has recently come into vogue. I suspect the anglophile socialists (the PBS following) think it is a more chic way to call them as they advance their "smart growth agenda." That agenda is determined to make you suffer while driving in the hope you switch to mass transportation. They make straight roads crooked, four lanes reduced to two, bike lanes everywhere, speed bumps, sidewalk jetties, more traffic signals, and roundabouts.

133 posted on 07/01/2011 7:39:03 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
We’ve been trying to get rid of the Concord Rotary for decades. My Tom-tom calls it a rotary, but Tom-Tom’s U.S. office about a quarter mile from the Concord Rotary. What do they call it outside of Massachusetts? In the UK, it’s a “roundabout”. What is it in Iowa?

They were called rotaries since the beginning. Naming them roundabouts has recently come into vogue. I suspect the anglophile socialists (the PBS following) think it is a more chic way to call them as they advance their "smart growth agenda." That agenda is determined to make you suffer while driving in the hope you switch to mass transportation. They make straight roads crooked, four lanes reduced to two, bike lanes everywhere, speed bumps, sidewalk jetties, more traffic signals, and roundabouts.

134 posted on 07/01/2011 7:43:27 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: AnalogReigns

There are only two rotaries I ever recall seeing outside of Massachusetts, one in Westchester County, NY and one in southern New Jersey, near Atlantic City. I’ve spent a lot of time in Eastern Virginia, btw.


135 posted on 07/02/2011 4:02:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: the scotsman

Circles should be navigated completely sober, avoided by the tipsy.


136 posted on 07/02/2011 4:13:43 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The two I mentioned at Rt 15 at Rt 50 are only about a year or two old now. Part of a new movement by Middleburg, Va, “horse-country” uber-rich folk, called “traffic calming” to slow traffic on 50, the road that runs through Middleburg...

As far as I can see, if one is careful, these are better than a light—traffic moves more smoothly and consistently.


137 posted on 07/03/2011 8:03:52 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

The Route 2 Concord Rotary is a major traffic bottleneck, traffic backs up for about a mile at rush hour. It does have the effect of slowing down incident traffic, but the Acton cops have a field day just west of it. Not at all incidentally, the first traffic light west of the Concord Rotary takes its toll in traffic fatalities. I would say at least 3/4 of all traffic fatalities in Acton (town west of Concord) are at the traffic light west of “the” Rotary.


138 posted on 07/04/2011 5:42:29 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: meyer
When roundabouts replace signaled intersections they improve traffic flow.
139 posted on 07/05/2011 10:18:51 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Member Emeritus of Vitriolics Anonymous.)
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