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If ATF actually recieves some punishment over their misdeeds, might some truth about Waco actually come out? Could it be possible that an insider would offer up evidence in exchange for immunity?

Certainly not in this show, but maybe in the investigative hearings run by Issa?

1 posted on 06/30/2011 6:04:10 AM PDT by marktwain
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and what about McVey I still think that was a case of a grandstanding sting operation gone wrong


2 posted on 06/30/2011 6:15:41 AM PDT by Charlespg
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We need more control over the government...

NOT more government control over our rights.

For example, we should have something called “Schumer Control”.

Every time a totalitarian-statist-tyrant wannabe like upChuck Schemer comes after *ANY* one of our constitutional rights, he should be arrested, tried, and, if convicted, tarred and feathered and EXILED from the U.S, with his citizenship revoked.

People like that could be sent to Cuba, or Venezuela, or Iran, or North Korea.

I’m sure those tyrannical colletivist paradises would know what to do with them.


3 posted on 06/30/2011 6:17:25 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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"We`re going to hammer guns on the anvil of a relentless legislative strategy. We`re going to beat guns into submission."

Maybe it's you Chuck, that needs to be beat into submission.

Effing traitor.

4 posted on 06/30/2011 6:18:54 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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So when the gov brakes the law blame the citizens, Just how stupid are these idiots.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 6:19:16 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons!)
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bad people have bad habits, time to see what Schmuckie’s been up to, he was Wieners mentor...wonder what will come out if his tree is shaken?
6 posted on 06/30/2011 6:20:36 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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Hmm?? Lemme see if I have this correct:
  1. A gubmint agency, the BATF, under Eric Holder's control, decides to go rogue.
  2. They intentionally and 'with malice aforethought' order law abiding Gun Dealers to sell 'Assault Weapons' to known criminals.
  3. Over the Gun Dealers objections to these sales, the BATF demands that the sales be carried out.
  4. These 'Assault Weapons' are immediately 'walked through' the USA to Mexico, where the BATF has no authority and can't trace the weapons.
  5. The guns are used by Mexican Drug Lords to KILL people, just as the BATF expected would happen.
  6. But Ooops, an American Border Agent is murdered with one of these 'Assault Weapons' and it's left as the scene of the crime.
  7. Now, the BATF, the DoJ and Holder go into CYA mode and at first deny said operation ever existed.
  8. When that lie is blown to hell Holder says it's the fault of the BATF and some rogue agents.
  9. That lie is also exposed and now Holder AND Obama are in deep doo-doo.
  10. It now comes to the point that the RATS have to go into a full court defensive press and claim 'victim'. That it's really the Gun's Fault and our 'Lax Gun Laws'.
Sure. That makes perfect sense. After all, if those guns weren't there in the first place, as in banned. The BATF never could have come up with this stupid ass operation in the first place! So yep it's all OUR fault, and those dam guns! So we must immediately ban them all so no Rogue Agency can ever do something as dumb as this again.

And it's all for our own good you know. The RATS admit we NOW have to protect ourselves from our own government. So thanks Chuckie and Cummings, I never would have guessed that.

9 posted on 06/30/2011 7:32:12 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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"Why? Why is this a partisan issue?"

Very simple:

This "under the radar gun control" op was run by Øbozo. His @$$ is hanging out a mile on this one...

Schmuckey's show is just smoke and mirrors to try to misdirect attention -- so it won't get lopped off by Issa and the American people!

10 posted on 06/30/2011 8:03:56 AM PDT by TXnMA (There is no Constitutional right to NOT be offended.)
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“The same Chuck Schumer who said:”

The same Chuck Schumer who was the model for “Carl Schaumberg” in Unintended Consequences.

(I had to look it up; Schumer was a congressman when UC was written.)


11 posted on 06/30/2011 8:57:29 AM PDT by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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