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1 posted on 06/30/2011 5:08:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: All; Nachum; 444Flyer; Munz; SunkenCiv; mojitojoe
Another update on FFGate: is seemingly a news black-out.

'Project Gunrunner' Whistleblower Says ATF Sent Him Termination Notice

2 posted on 06/30/2011 5:14:22 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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Maybe they can get Janet Reno to take the fall? Oh wait, no need, they will just lie and ignore it. It’s just another disaster they created.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 5:28:30 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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Compare the media noise on this with the Valerie Plame story.


6 posted on 06/30/2011 5:31:39 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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Sorry! What I have seen out of Issa so far reminds me of a chihuahua yipping at an M-1 Abrams Army tank!


7 posted on 06/30/2011 5:35:50 AM PDT by Tucker39
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“...he certainly would not have ordered gun running...”

This is Chicago speak for: “Sure we signed off on it, but you won’t find MY finger prints on it!”


8 posted on 06/30/2011 5:44:02 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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Obama said he would comment further on the issue once the investigation is completed.
I can see it now...
"The investigation indicates that nobody knows who authorized this and it contends that rogue agents in the agency were responsible. Sadly, it doesn't indicate who those rogue agents are either. We know nothing more than you and the investigation does not state conclusively where the blame should be placed so we're not going to blame anybody."
10 posted on 06/30/2011 5:55:52 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Fact: As early as 2008 officials in this administration cite American guns as being the primary arms of violent Mexican criminals (which is proven false). Eric Holder states unequivocally (in 2009) that this is the primary reason that the administration will seek to “re-institute the ban on the sale of assault weapons”.

Fact: This administration caused at least thousands of weapons to be illegally sold to people known to resell said weapons across the Mexican border.

Fact: Between 2009 and 2010 more than 3500 Gun were allowed to “walk” into Mexico.

Fact: In a Jan. 25, 2011, Phoenix press conference, Special Agent in Charge William Newell was asked whether ATF agents were ever ordered to allow guns to “walk” into Mexico. He answered, “Hell no!”

Fact: In a February 4, 2011, response letter to Grassley, Justice Department Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs Ron Weich described as “false” Grassley’s assertion that ATF had knowingly allowed guns to be purchased and walked into Mexico.

Fact: Leaked e-mail traffic from spring 2010 documents show that ATF management from Acting Director Kenneth Melson on down were personally briefed in Phoenix on Operation Fast and Furious by Newell.

Fact: The ATF intentionally broke national and international laws with this operation.

Fact: The official ATF explanation for this operation, after being forced to admit that they allowed gun into Mexico, was to allow criminals to buy and transport guns to Mexico so that the ATF could later tie them back to drug cartels when they were used in crimes.

Fact: The ATF could not track firearms used in Mexican crimes except at the request of the Mexican government.

Fact: If the ATF was requested by Mexico to provide firearm tracking information, that request is not likely to provide the information that the ATF said they wanted.

Fact: If the ATF could actually tie a firearm they caused to be illegally sold to a Mexican cartel...so what? They have no jurisdiction in Mexico, no arrest powers, and even if they were to provide this information to Mexican officials it gains local law enforcement nothing.

Fact: At least 150 people have been killed with guns that the ATF knowingly and illegally allowed to be sold.

Fact: Not one person has been arrested by allowing guns to cross the border.

Everyone that can be linked to the decision process is guilty of deprivation of rights under color of law which in this case is a capital crime. A good case could be made that those same people are also guilty of treason.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 5:58:03 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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“My attorney general has made clear that he certainly would not have ordered gun running to be able to pass through into Mexico,” Obama said.

“The investigation is still pending. I'm not going to comment on a current investigation. I've made very clear my views that would not be an appropriate step by the ATF, and we've got to find out how that happened.


The admission that the gunwalking actually happened is new. His previous statement from last March only indicated that it "may" have happened.

We know from emails that ATF Director Melson was involved. He only has two bosses within the DOJ, according to the DOJ organizational chart: the Deputy AG and the Attorney General. Including Obama, that makes three bosses, two of whom have denied authorizing this operation.

How long is it going to take to investigate whether the one other possible choice authorized it?
14 posted on 06/30/2011 8:41:29 AM PDT by publiusF27
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http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/06/27/nra-boss-obamas-gone-in-2012

Interesting tidbit in this article is that Obama told Sarah Brady that he was working on gun control “under the radar”.


18 posted on 06/30/2011 11:06:30 AM PDT by cinciella
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Obama just wants this story to go away. And he has the whole MSM to help him. It is infuriating. He should be impeached, but instead he's off on another taxpayer funded vacation with the million dollar a trip whirlwind tour wife.
22 posted on 06/30/2011 9:11:57 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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