Time for the Rich to Shut Up on Taxes

American Thinker ^ | April 13, 2011 | Stephen Mauzy

[mjp]

The guilt of some does not justify the use of force to violate the rights of others with unjust taxes. It is no one’s moral obligation to sacrifice his values or wealth to the government’s redistributionist policies, so that he may suffer his “fair share” of the damage it inflicts.

[WOBBLY BOB]

here you go, Warren:

** Gift Contributions to Reduce Debt Held by the Public **

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/gift/gift.htm

now STFU.

[NoGrayZone]

"There are solutions to this vexing tax problem. There is the obvious: The whiny woeful rich could simply write an additional tax check each year."

Ha! That is what I suggested to a co worker who said we should ALL be paying more taxes. I told her the government should set up a "charity fund" for people like her who want to pay more taxes and leave me the he!! alone.

She shook her head no no no, I said why not? She just kept saying no no no, not fair. I said what's not fair about it? You want to pay more, I don't. You can and I don't have to.

A win win situation ANY sane person could agree to.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Qbert.

Haim Saban, Penny Pritzker, and Warren Buffett... Theirs is a guilt that only afflicts the very rich -- a guilt that arises from wanting more equitable outcomes coupled with an unwillingness to pay the requisite taxes to achieve those outcomes.  It's the same guilt that has plagued Rockefeller, Kennedy, and Mott progeny for decades.

[longtermmemmory]

has buffet ever volunteered a tax me more check?

[RightOnTheBorder]

Bull spit. The super rich left have no guilt, they simply know that confiscatory taxes and burdensome regulation will create a static economy where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. The super rich want their families to be the global aristocracy in perpetuity and that just can't happen with a free market.

[freedumb2003]

>>I said why not? She just kept saying no no no, not fair. I said what’s not fair about it? You want to pay more, I don’t. You can and I don’t have to.<<

Any American can ABSOLUTELY over pay their taxes as much as he/she wants. No special fund necessary.

As you saw, That is the liberal killer argument. Tell the nearest well-meaning liberal they are free to pay as much tax as possible. If they want to fund colostomy bags for illegals through the government, pull out the checkbook.

As you saw, there is no rational response possible.

[scooby321]

The Obama Administration has 1 tax that I support. Its called the tax on Hedge Funds at a income rate instead of the capital gains rate.

Lets see how fast these people who use the income rate at 15% like paying 35% like most people do.

[OHPatriot]

I have a great idea. If these “Rich” feel so guilty then they should give 100% of their vast fortunes to the treasury. They have made it obvious they don’t need it, so donate it. Have them live only on their paychecks and nothing else and then let them tell us they still want to pay higher taxes. If I was an old fart like Buffet, I wouldn’t need his fortune either. I’d settle for 10% of the total and most likely couldn’t spend it all in the few years he has left.

[Qbert]

“Ha! That is what I suggested to a co worker who said we should ALL be paying more taxes.”

Call her bluff: Tell her we should raise taxes then on those who currently aren’t paying any. (After all, we all need to “pay our fair share”, right?)

And ask her if it’s “fair” that large oil companies pay at a 35% average rate, while others pay zilch.

[Paladin2]

Nobody is stopping them from sending it all in to the gov’t.

[infowarrior]

Bull spit. The super rich left have no guilt, they simply know that confiscatory taxes and burdensome regulation will create a static economy where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. The super rich want their families to be the global aristocracy in perpetuity and that just can't happen with a free market.

You've hit the nail tantalizingly close to the head, but missed it nevertheless. What is missing from your equation above? Why, you have the rich, and the poor, but *NO* 'middle class'.

That is where you missed the mark. What they want, is reversion from a three tier society, back to a two tier society, one of 'masters' and 'slaves', 'lords' and 'serfs'. And they have the audacity to call *THAT* 'progress'. It boggles the mind...

the infowarrior

[Jim Scott]

From the American Thinker article:

But let's be honest: The very rich don't want to pay more tax, they want you to pay more taxes.

That about sums it up.

[Qbert]

Or how about phonies like Buffet and the others follow a *true* humanitarian (giving away millions... in the days before charitable deductions for tax purposes):

—Andrew Carnegie, Philanthropist:

“Can you imagine becoming the richest person in the world and then giving your money away? That’s exactly what Andrew Carnegie did. After retiring in 1901 at the age of 66 as the world’s richest man, Andrew Carnegie wanted to become a philanthropist, a person who gives money to good causes. He believed in the “Gospel of Wealth,” which meant that wealthy people were morally obligated to give their money back to others in society.

Carnegie had made some charitable donations before 1901, but after that time, giving his money away became his new occupation. In 1902 he founded the Carnegie Institution to fund scientific research and established a pension fund for teachers with a $10 million donation...

Throughout his life, Andrew Carnegie loved to read. So it made sense that he wanted to give money to support education and reading. When Carnegie was a young man he lived near Colonel James Anderson, a rich man who allowed any working boy to use his personal library for free. In those days, America did not have a system of free public libraries.

Carnegie never forgot Colonel Anderson’s generosity. As a result, Carnegie supported education; he gave money to towns and cities to build more than 2,000 public libraries. He also gave $125 million to a foundation called the Carnegie Corporation to aid colleges and other schools...”

http://www.americaslibrary.gov/aa/carnegie/aa_carnegie_phil_1.html

[goodnesswins]

The “super rich” don’t pay much in taxes....they have “people” to make sure they don’t....they hire CPA’s, attorneys, put together Trusts, and even TRADE trust money....ala Buffet and Gates....it’s their elite game.

[sheana]

Mr Buffett shielded $21 billion by transferring it to Bill Gates philantrophies.

He mustve thought that private charities knew better what to do with that $21 billion than the government. Otherwise he would’ve just sent it them. Lol

It is so easy to turn what these libs do against them.

[Wuli]

I think we SHOULD have a wealth tax.

It should be assessed at an undisclosed rate (only to be found out when it hits) on every “wealthy” American (assets and income greater than X?) who complains that the wealthy like themselves don’t pay enough taxes.

Let’s be sure we relieve them of their guilt. We can use the proceeds to pay-down government debt; which we can be sure is also due to the kind of government spending programs the same guilty-wealthy people encourage.

[NoGrayZone]

"As you saw, there is no rational response possible."

No, there isn't. It's like speaking to a crazy person who has absolutely nothing coherent to say and you walk away saying "wtf?"

[Qbert]

“Bull spit. The super rich left have no guilt, they simply know that confiscatory taxes and burdensome regulation will create a static economy where the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. The super rich want their families to be the global aristocracy in perpetuity and that just can’t happen with a free market.”

Yeah, I’d have to agree with you. I thought the article was great, but the use of the word “guilt” was a false note. (And I think their actions described more than contradict their supposed “guilt” over taxes).