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Townhall.com ^ | June 28, 2011 | Frank Turek

Posted on 06/28/2011 9:03:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: DBrow

Another thread today had this quote:

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.

Gilbert K. Chesterton

Last week Hannity was blathering about “I don’t care what people do in their bedrooms” in regard to the NY marriage law. I got so mad I turned him off.

Chesterton’s quote has Hannity nailed.

Tolerance is NOT opened ended, a blank check, in ANY society. Some actions are INTOLERABLE. “Tolerance” has become a mantra for those without convictions or a knowledge of truth who sit and stare at their belly buttons all day.

/rant


41 posted on 06/28/2011 9:50:48 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
No, I think Kaslin should sue, too. I can see the headline now:

“New Plaintiff joins Cisco Discrimination Suit”

I can see it now:

On what purpose did you sue?

Me: campaignPete R-CT told me to

42 posted on 06/28/2011 9:51:44 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: FewsOrange

Hahahahahahaha...the laws of unintended consequences...

Funny. People excoriate Apple, Disney and now Cisco, but Microsoft, GM, Boeing and nearly every other corporation under the sun and under the American flag is a complete and willing prisoner to this bullcrap.

It all started with organizations like the Rainbow Coalition that made their bones (and generated income for Jessie Jackson’s private plane) by shaking down companies for their supposed racial hiring shortcomings.

Companies would just pay tribute to the organization to avoid protesters on the sidewalk outside headquarters, and that turned into this ridiculous frenzy of seeing what company could bend over further backwards to show they weren’t intolerant racists.

Now, it is to show they aren’t intolerant homophobic, sexist racists.


43 posted on 06/28/2011 9:52:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Bill


44 posted on 06/28/2011 9:52:48 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: KarlInOhio

POST OF THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

45 posted on 06/28/2011 9:54:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (Sometimes, the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But not always.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Tolerance is the virtue of a man that respects others’ convictions.


46 posted on 06/28/2011 9:55:24 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: rlmorel

I went to the CISCO site to see how they peddle their systems. This page was interesting: http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/automating-cisco-ucs-management-with-windows-powershell/ If you know about the guy getting canned for his work outside the company (because he doesn’t think homosexual behavior is all it’s cracked up to be) this particular piece really shouts a different sort of message than CISCO imagines they’d been doing. Actually makes me want to AVOID systems where CISCO is involved. There could be a lot of blow-back. Their stock should start tanking soon (again, as usual ~ the company is not really well strung together).


47 posted on 06/28/2011 9:59:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BwanaNdege

My new tagline. Thank you.


48 posted on 06/28/2011 9:59:41 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Kaslin; All

Publicly-held companies tend towards political correctness. They tend to only seek to protect their image in the eye of the public to avoid stirring up public anger against themselves. Publicly-held companies will very often undertake causes and projects that will curry favor with the general public. However, they will also put off and hide problems, sometimes for decades, since the next quarterly report is all that really matters. They will always attempt to curry favor with politicians as it is an easy way to make money without having to do the work of real production. The concept of “right and wrong” is purely relative for publicly-held companies, since their only guide to right and wrong is the current law.

Privately-held companies reflect the values of their owners, good, bad or indifferent.


49 posted on 06/28/2011 10:03:09 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Trying to rebuild America on pure conservative principles)
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To: muawiyah

Were you speaking from a technical point of view?

I work in IT, but only have peripheral dealings with Cisco. I do know that my brother, who has to deal with them directly in installation, configuration troubleshooting and repair absolutely detests, with a white-hot intensity, having to deal with them directly or indirectly through their website.

He says once their systems are set up, they work well, but the documentation of their arcane configurations is putrid, and dealing with their technical support can drive your blood pressure through the roof.


50 posted on 06/28/2011 10:06:18 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: smaug6
All HR operations actually have but ONE individual who knows the rules inside and out and can make things happen. Our guy at USPS Headquarters was Steve Levy. I met him way back in the early 70s and he was a pretty decent fellow ~ but at the top of the game in knowing the rules. He was, in fact, quite possibly the federal government's most knowledgeable individual in retirement processes and law.

Through the years "they" decided to broaden Steve and get him involved in more and more aspects of HR ~ like running non-RIF RIFs. (USPS lost several really big cases that cost them hundreds of millions for having violated the laws concerning Veterans' Preference BTW, but this is not about that).

Steve became the Angel of Death for management and staff. When he came around to talk to you it meant your office was being abolished, or maybe you would lose your job, or be demoted ~ and all for no reason at all, but Steve was the messenger for top management in these matters.

Slowly but surely as he got older Steve handled things like this less well, and I think he began to suffer some serious mental deterioration as the work he was doing became less and less consistent with his personal knowledge base.

He knew the rules ~ management didn't ~ and he knew what was unlawful, or at least highly questionable.

I retired a couple of years before he did, but I'd won several federal government wide precedental cases against USPS regarding RIFs and reassignments.

In the end I was the only guy Steve could talk to man to man. I didn't fear him. He feared me.

51 posted on 06/28/2011 10:07:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KarlInOhio

The proper terms are “jack” and “plug” ( and have officially been that for some time).

Ironically, “jack” is the female part.


52 posted on 06/28/2011 10:07:55 AM PDT by BigOrangeI (Government should only do what only government can do.)
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To: Kaslin
Color me NOT interested in being a Cisco employee. They are hurting on some projects right now. Things I could probably solve. The kind of BS in the article means I won't even entertain a bid on the task.
53 posted on 06/28/2011 10:17:34 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Kaslin
Large companies such as Cisco are probably compelled to enact these "diversity" policies in compliance with new regulations (imposed by liberal lawmakers) or out of fear of being sued.

I doubt that any company would have such a policy unless it were required by the law, or demanded by one or two radical leftists within the company who threatened to sue or "go public" with some nonsense about how they were discriminated against. The company would rather deal with superfluous training than "bad publicity."

I have been asked (twice) in job interviews my opinions on "diversity" and how I would encourage it in the workplace. I remember thinking, "What does this have to do with the job I am applying for?"

One company I worked for required people to go through "diversity training" but fortunately they were very respectful toward the person being trained. The company found a way to comply with the law but not insult their employees in doing so. I was impressed.

54 posted on 06/28/2011 10:20:30 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Kaslin

How about this, they give a brief seminar on having sex casually:

Watch out for people with genital warts, because HPV is resistant to the traditional chemical means of killing viruses!

Watch out for HIV/AIDS and respect the 1/8 chance that they claim you have of contracting it during protected sex, not to mention have a more expensive life because the drugs for slowing down HIV Progression aren’t cheap.

Watch out for genital warts because it causes tumors on the worst of places later down the road.

Could I go on?

I understand people who get infected with all the serious STDs because of rape, or a bad blood donor, but seriously, just when our society is supposedly getting so prosperous, someone has to find some lesser appetite to treat as an urgent need.


55 posted on 06/28/2011 10:23:20 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: smaug6
HR the haven of cowards.

HR is just the enforcement arm of the management team, that's all.

Most of the places I've worked have used it to bump up their Affirmative Action Quotas....can't do that at the sharp end of the stick, but within HR, there's plenty of room. An added bonus is that the positions are forward-facing, so that the company gets a "two-fer".

Plenty more places that I've worked use it as a passive-aggressive method of enforcement. Older ladies, unfailingly polite, bring in cookies on Friday, and so on. Then, they hit you with a "Please, just be a dear and sign off on this re-vamped employment agreement. You're the last one, it's Friday, and we can all go home as soon as you sign off."

Worthless Bureaucrats, all.

I work extensively with a small technology company. They were talking about needing to bring in an HR person to handle some of the day-to-day. The owner squelched it by saying "We're having fun right now. Why bring in HR and put a stop to it?" :-)

56 posted on 06/28/2011 10:23:44 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Genoa

If telling the truth about the reason for discharge or breaking the contract it sounds like a good suit.


57 posted on 06/28/2011 10:24:58 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: PGR88
I find that a surprisingly large number of conservatives do NOT understand that there are many corporations that are as great a source of our corruption as any Marxist is. Many have long-ago crossed from "free enterprise" into "rent-seeking."

Absolutely - I've been saying for years that big business is as big a threat to our liberties as big government. Of course, the libertarians get mad at me when I say it.

58 posted on 06/28/2011 10:25:48 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Jess Kitting
Cisco needs to respect all of its employees, not just those with loud mouths and radical political agendas.

It can be done, Cisco. Other companies have done it. Don't cave in to pressure from the left.

59 posted on 06/28/2011 10:26:49 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: smaug6

HR is the American corporate version of the zampolits in the Soviet military. The function of the zampolit (political officer) was to not only be a pain in the @$$, but to be a major threat to the authority of the military commander and a threat to all subordinates. Any action or statement was evaluated by the zampolit to see if there was any political disloyalty, real or imagined. On the whole, the zampolit was beyond useless, in fact, an obstacle.


60 posted on 06/28/2011 10:27:18 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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