Posted on 06/28/2011 8:18:16 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Should We Be Afraid of China's New Aircraft Carrier?
Not yet.
BY ABRAHAM M. DENMARK, ANDREW S. ERICKSON, AND GABRIEL COLLINS | JUNE 27, 2011
Six months ago, Gen. Liu Huaqing -- the father of China's modern navy and its commander from 1982 to 1988 (and, according to the state-run People's Daily, "a distinguished member of the CPC, a seasoned loyal Communist fighter, an outstanding proletarian revolutionist, politician and strategist, and an excellent leader of the Party, the state and the military") -- passed away. Liu sought to build China's navy first into a "green water" fleet and, eventually, into a full-fledged "blue water" navy capable of projecting power over vast distances. Key to realizing Liu's vision was an aircraft carrier, and Liu reportedly vowed: "I will not die with my eyes closed if I do not see a Chinese aircraft carrier in front of me."
While Liu may have died with his eyes open, they can close now. From the harbor at Dalian naval shipyard in northeast China, the first aircraft carrier of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) will soon set sail for the first time. And much of the Asia-Pacific region, as well as the Asia-watching strategic community in the United States, is hotly debating the implications of this move.
Adm. Robert Willard, commander of U.S. Pacific Command, said in an April interview with Bloomberg that he is "not concerned" about China's first carrier going to sea, but allowed: "Based on the feedback that we received from our partners and allies in the Pacific, I think the change in perception by the region will be significant." Japan's Asahi Shimbun
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Silly yankee...That not aircraft carrier, haha...it floating china factory where quality product for yankee come from.. haha...It where tainted doggy yum yums are made...We build more floating factories to help make yankee strong and proud! Bye bye now!
One aircraft carrier does not a world naval power make. Ask the UK, France, or even Thailand. Though it is not my intention to diminish the threat, especially to Taiwan, the sortie rate of one carrier, oil fired as it is will be quite low. A future nuclear powered carrier, would not help the sortie rate. Which is why the US currently has eleven commissioned with one under construction.
The Japanese were also supremely arrogant and infected with what Mitsuo Fuchida referred to after the war as “victory disease”.
Plus the methodical and cautious Nagumo was so distracted by a report that there might be a US carrier in the vicinity. This caused him to order the planes waiting for the second strike on Midway’s airfield to be rearmed with torpedoes. In their haste the Japanese armorers stacked the bombs removed from the planes on the decks of the carriers.
Just waiting for a few bombs from the Navy’s Dauntlesses to detonate among them creating huge chain-reaction explosions on board the enemy carriers.
Don’t forget our superior DC capability. When all four of the Japanese carriers were hit, they all became infernos. Their DC people could not control the fire. Our guys got the Yorktown going so well, when the second bomb run that eventually sunk the Yorktown came overhead, the Japanese thought it was a different carrier because the DC guys has put out all the fires and got her underway.
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The real practical strategic value of China’s carrier may be to improve the survivability of the PRC’s ballistic missile subs. That was the intended use of the Russian-version Varyag. Even though relatively small, it could provide anti-air and anti-sub patrols to give more credibility to China’s nuclear deterrent threat.
With the exception (supposedly) that the sinking of a US carrier would entail a nuclear retaliatory strike.
It was never intended to be a general purpose carrier like ours, but rather to support the Sov's ballistic missile and ASW operations. It has a curved front deck reminiscent of the Brit jump carriers.
So, the Chicoms are hardly building Nimitz class ships, at least not yet. Still, this thing could be intimidating to some folks in their near neighborhood.
The Japanese Navy is far superior to the PLAN. Not even close.
They have some reasonable numbers too.
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The PLAN has a lot more bodies than the JMSDF. A Chinese invasion of Japan would use up a lot of them on both sides.
Lets see, First space heater made in Mexico lasted me 9 years keeping me warm under my desk.
Second space heater made in CHINA lasted 1 1/2 months until the knobs stopped working, the decals falling off and the fan sounding like an F-14 taking off the dying all together.
Third space heater, Made in CHINA lasted 3 months (woohoo!) till Feb when it started sparking and melting.
Those are just the heaters, Don’t get me started on the blender, shop vac, cordless drill, power washer, weed wacker, etc etc....
No, i’m not too worried about a chinese carrier.
The engines will seize, prop shafts will un-balance, The “steel” hull will prematurely rot, the Cafeteria will poison the sailors........and so on.
LOL, the Chinese can’t even make functioning toenail clippers.
Akagi had only one sister. Both were caught on the builder's ways by the 1922 earthquake, and the sister fell off her slipway and was irretrievably damaged and had to be broken up. Both were to have been battlecruisers in the successor class to the Kongos, but Akagi, like USS Lexington and Saratoga, was converted to a large aircraft carrier.
A straight fight between the two navies would probably be a walkover for the Japanese. They probably wouldn't even bother to ask us for help, except to make sure the phone lines still worked, lol.
In the case of the Royal Navy, the tradition was "Rum, Buggery and the Lash".
Damn! Can’t you guys stomach “just a little itty bitty” of a competition? I mean hell, if only we make as much commotion about the HMS Vikrant, the HMS São Paulo, and the HMS Giuseppe Garibaldi, which had all been plying the world’s oceans for decades. I mean the [Shi Lang] as they call it (Ace in the hole would’ve been a much more appropriate name?) is only a floating casino. It probably have your favorite slots and table games in it just as they do in the Caesar’s Palace and in the Venetian. I mean you guys can’t be that serious about one and one only lonely little Moby-Dick dingy, are you guys?
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