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To: DoughtyOne
The LA Times article came out yesterday, but you're convinced that Bachmann has destroyed herself because she has not responded as of this moment.

And you miss the point. Bachmann filed her disclosure about income from the farm how long ago? And wasn't ready with a statement that matches that disclosure when the inevitable questions arose? Smart campaigns anticipate these issues - and when they come across one they didn't anticipate, they have a rapid response team ready to quickly jump on them.

Bachmann is not running a smart campaign so far. The signs are there, and more and more people are realizing this. Sadly, about the only ones not realizing it are ... the Bachmann camp.

Sounds to me as if you're praying nightly for it. Sad...

That's pretty pathetic and slimy. I saw Bachmann as a logical 2nd choice to Palin (who I think will probably NOT get in the race). But in a very short time, Bachmann has soured me on her prospects. I am hardly praying for her to fail. But so far she has been underwhelming in being able to manage a national campaign - probably because she never has run for anything larger than a Congressional district to date.

I have not repeated any issues that were not buttressed by actual facts. If that automatically puts you into a defensive posture, that speaks more of the problems with your candidate than it does about me.

179 posted on 06/27/2011 12:14:52 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
The LA Times article came out yesterday, but you're convinced that Bachmann has destroyed herself because she has not responded as of this moment.

And you miss the point. Bachmann filed her disclosure about income from the farm how long ago? And wasn't ready with a statement that matches that disclosure when the inevitable questions arose? Smart campaigns anticipate these issues - and when they come across one they didn't anticipate, they have a rapid response team ready to quickly jump on them.

That assumes that Bachmann did something wrong.  If she didn't do anything that was wrong, why would she develop a white sheet response for it?  You're being silly.

Bachmann is not running a smart campaign so far. The signs are there, and more and more people are realizing this. Sadly, about the only ones not realizing it are ... the Bachmann camp.

According to you and a few others DirtBoy.  And you folks have expressed a willingness to adopt the LA Times stance on this matter within moments.  That being the case, why should I or anyone else extend credibility to you on this matter?

Let's let folks know what I was reponding to below, just for the chuckles.  Hope you don't mind.

She has to know full well that a disclosure form is out there saying she got money from that farm - a simple denial just isn't going to cut it.  But go ahead, blame the critics with Bachmann just like you're blaming JD's self-immolation on the critics.  End result will be the same.

Sounds to me as if you're praying nightly for it. Sad...

That's pretty pathetic and slimy.  Actually, I think it's a rather obvious conclusion.  It may not in fact be accurate, but man does it sound like it could fit like a glove with your expressed views.

I saw Bachmann as a logical 2nd choice to Palin (who I think will probably NOT get in the race). But in a very short time, Bachmann has soured me on her prospects.  Look DirtBoy, I've been paying attention for years when Bachmann would make a statement.  I've never heard her say something I didn't agree with.  Perhaps you can refresh my memory, but right now I can't.  You're asking me to believe you seriously considered her, but your perception was totally destroyed by her activity over the last few weeks.  I find that very hard to believe.  It may be as true as can be, but it really doesn't build my confidence in you to stand by your convictions and see how things play out over time.  In time I may not back her either, but I can't imagine me totally scratching her off over things that have taken place recently.  I can't identify with your Bachmann related angst at all.

I am hardly praying for her to fail. But so far she has been underwhelming in being able to manage a national campaign - probably because she never has run for anything larger than a Congressional district to datei.  DirtBoy, what's your explanation for the Iowa Caucus poll?  Bachmann trailed Romney by one point, 22 vs 23%.  This is the real rubber meets the road guage of how effective she has been IMO.  Your vision of her campaign doesn't seem borne out by that.  Frankly, I was quite surprised.  I know she comes from the general region, but Romney has been considered to be the front runner.  Now she appears (at least in one race, even though it's early on) to be right up there with him.

Where to begin on this idiotic stance of yours?  Well, in light of what I just posted, you might want to give your question a bit more thought than you would have a moment ago.

I have not repeated any issues that were not buttressed by actual facts. If that automatically puts you into a defensive posture, that speaks more of the problems with your candidate than it does about me.

You have repeated things that have been raised, but that's not proof positve that they are facts.  Things get spun.  There's generally more information to follow.  What bothers me about your stances, is that you have judged each one of them by the most anti-Bachmann stance possible.  And yet you state you were honestly considering backing her.  Wow, that's rather fickle IMO.  Doesn't that sound fickle to you?


188 posted on 06/27/2011 5:30:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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